w34z3l's 6max walkthrough - (microstakes edition)

Hi w34z3l!

First off all sorry about my bad english

Im trying to improve my pre flop game with this ranges, what open raise size do you recommend for each position using this ranges?

x2.5bb SB
x.2bb BU
x.2.5bb CO
x3bb MP
x4bb EP ?

Im a little bit confused about OR sizings

thanks!

Originally posted by darkonebg

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IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
BB: $1.99 (39.8 bb)
CO: $10.33 (206.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $14.93 (298.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q J
CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, CO calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.37) K 3 9 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87) T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

River: ($2.07) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $1.75, Hero folds

Results:

Originally posted by AlvisR
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IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
BB: $1.99 (39.8 bb)
CO: $10.33 (206.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $14.93 (298.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q J
CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, CO calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.37) K 3 9 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87) T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

River: ($2.07) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $1.75, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$2.07 pot ($0.13 rake)
Final Board: K 3 9 T 4
CO mucked and won $1.94 ($0.94 net)
Hero mucked Q J and lost (-$1 net)

Just seen the video. Yes, he's got the nuts.

Good fold.

@elpsycho Hand 1 - Preflop open is fine, doesn't need to be standard open though, I would base this on who is at the table. Hand is played fine. It's good that you go into details regarding your range. Strategy sounds ok at the micro limits, but it sounds like any time you check the turn here you will be check/folding a large amount which can be exploited as you move up the limits.

Hand 2 - Yeah pretty decent spot to check back and call vs turn lead.

Hand 3 - Preflop 3b for value is fine. Standard option is to cbet for value (we have no decent info on 3b pots so far which can be different to single-raised) - but assuming his Ftcbet in 3b pots was very high it'd be ok to slowplay on this particular texture. Turn and river are fine.

@gAsheks - Preflop defend is fine given the price, would be a fold vs larger 3b. Flop float is standard here. I agree with turn comments, raise is probably a slightly overplay. It'd be better just to call turn and all non-flush rivers despite the available draws on the board.

@KingKas - Great job, I haven't looked in detail at the maths but I'm not seeing any immediate problems. It looks like you have a pretty decent grasp of this.

Originally posted by marcosmartinez
Hi w34z3l!

First off all sorry about my bad english

Im trying to improve my pre flop game with this ranges, what open raise size do you recommend for each position using this ranges?

x2.5bb SB
x.2bb BU
x.2.5bb CO
x3bb MP
x4bb EP ?

Im a little bit confused about OR sizings

thanks!

Usually I base my sizings on who is at the table. I make it 2.2bb as standard from pretty much all positions. However if I'm dealt AA on the BTN and there is a huge fish in the BB I might even make it 4bb or 5bb. Usually there is rarely any need to make pot-sized opens as standard from any position in today's games - but keep in mind the most important things is what happens postflop. It's possible to make a range of different preflop sizings profitable.

Originally posted by AlvisR
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IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
BB: $1.99 (39.8 bb)
CO: $10.33 (206.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $14.93 (298.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q J
CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, CO calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.37) K 3 9 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87) T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

River: ($2.07) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $1.75, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$2.07 pot ($0.13 rake)
Final Board: K 3 9 T 4
CO mucked and won $1.94 ($0.94 net)
Hero mucked Q J and lost (-$1 net)

Hey AlvisR,

Yup, can't remember if this one was in the video or not. But usually x/c twice OOP and lead river (especially if flush completes) is hugely weighted towards value at these limits. Good river fold here.

As I am not that familiar with Excel Makros dveloped by Alleen86 in previous posts, I took his idea and transferred it into Powerpoint.

I already had made excel sheets similar to those which are in his file and embedded the individual ranges now into PowerPoint sheets. I added and animated the buttons similar to Alleen86 idea who uses makros in Excel.

The advantage for me: This PowerPoint file is running on the Ipad under keynotes. Therefore it costs no space on the screen of my laptop.

Have fun at the tables

trashfool

Hi,
How do we adjust the ranges vs 50bb stacks, 30bb stacks and 70bb stacks?
I'm playing NL5 and NL 10 and there are lots of players who don't auto reload to 100bb or buyin for less than 100bb.
How do we play our range vs these stacks?
Say for ex: I have 910s from BB @NL 10 and SB with 6$ stack raises to .30$.
Can I call vs unknown?? What if he raises to .20$ and .25$ ?

It would be really helpful if you can give me calling ranges vs these stacks from <30bb till <75bb or so like how you have given calling ranges vs Position opens . I'm just starting out and would like to know.

Thanks and great thread.

Really enjoyed the latest video Weazel.

I was already aware of a few of the trends but NOT all of them, and found it very informative.

Keep up the great work!

hey, i am Peter from Germany. Is it possible to export this Equilab-Weazel-Ranges so that i can import it. Does someone know how to do this?
thank you

pit

Originally posted by trashfool
As I am not that familiar with Excel Makros dveloped by Alleen86 in previous posts, I took his idea and transferred it into Powerpoint.

I already had made excel sheets similar to those which are in his file and embedded the individual ranges now into PowerPoint sheets. I added and animated the buttons similar to Alleen86 idea who uses makros in Excel.

The advantage for me: This PowerPoint file is running on the Ipad under keynotes. Therefore it costs no space on the screen of my laptop.

Have fun at the tables

trashfool

hey, i am Peter from Germany and want to ask you it it be possible to got your PowerPoint-File?

thanks

pit

Hallo Superpit

The ranges I entered are my "working ranges" and probably differ at least somehow from the ranges, you would apply. Therefore the file would be of minor value for you as you would have to adapt the individual tables to your needs.

On the other hand it took me some hours to work on the excel file and in addition, to transfer it into Power Point and to add the buttons. Therefore I would not give it for free.

Therefore I would say: Depends on what it is worth for you

Greetings from Solingen to Cologne/Bonn if the groups you participate according to your profil represent your residence :-)

trashfool

Obviously w34z3l has some fans in Germany

Originally posted by trashfool
Hallo Superpit

The ranges I entered are my "working ranges" and probably differ at least somehow from the ranges, you would apply. Therefore the file would be of minor value for you as you would have to adapt the individual tables to your needs.

On the other hand it took me some hours to work on the excel file and in addition, to transfer it into Power Point and to add the buttons. Therefore I would not give it for free.

Therefore I would say: Depends on what it is worth for you

Greetings from Solingen to Cologne/Bonn if the groups you participate according to your profil represent your residence :-)

trashfool

Obviously w34z3l has some fans in Germany

Na , ich antworte dann ausnahmsweise mal in Deutsch. Trete damit hoffentlich niemanden hier auf die Fuesse. Mein Englisch ist naemlich nicht so doll

Ja, erstmal schöne Gruesse zurück nach Solingen. Sind ja nicht mal 80 KM Luftlinie von Bonn.

Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher dass du viel Arbeit mit dem File hattest, aber trotzdem tu ich mich sehr schwer damit, Geld fuer solche Dinge zu bezahlen, was daran liegt, dass ich auch schon selber sehr viel Zeit in die Hilfe andere User gesteckt habt, und das sind overall einige hundert Stunden (vor allem bei Problem mit dem PC und der Pokersoftware mit Teamviewer usw. - kannst dich ja mal umhoeren) Mir ist dabei noch nicht der Gedanke gekommen dafuer Geld zu verlangen.

Ich seh es mehr so, man "steckt" was in die Community und bekommt dafuer dann auch mal was zurück. Ein Geben und Nehmen halt. Da ich mein HomeLimit zur Zeit auch nur NL10 SH ist, habe ich auch nicht so viel übrig.

pit

I did watch the first video and gotta say that this serie sounds fantastic, gotta follow this. Maybe even start to do homeworks, or is it too late?

Re: vid 7 population reads. Big +1 to min-raise on the flop from a fish being some kind of weak made hand. It seems like they don't know what to do and want to take the pot down before the board gets ugly. As you say, a big turn bet following our flop flat is dangerous, but villains frequently check back these weak hands on the turn so it's often ok to vbet tpgk+ on the river

@keekkini - it's never too late...:)

Stay classy people

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but...

Just had my first coaching session with Adam (finished about 90mins ago).

I'm a beginning 6max zoom player, 25-50nl

Pretty much break even over 25k hands, maybe a slight winner. Some minor wins in small MTTs.

I have very little or zero experience with the software and tech involved in coaching (or anything else! I'm a techtard!)

The session was great! He was very patient with me, more than willing to help me out with setting up the software for the sweat session, skype, filtering my pokertracker, payment (obviously lol).

He helped to optimize my pokertracker, and gave some outlines on how to use to plan hands etc. Also helping with popups etc to really use it to exploit villains.

He seems to be very patient and clear with his explanations, and breaks things down in an easy to understand manner.

Like I said, it was only my first hour long session so can't give much more info. But it was definitely worth the $50, and I will be arranging more sessions if he is available!

Can't recommend enough!

Hey w34z3l,

I am wondering what kind of adjustments should I make to this ranges at nl50? Probably expand BB vs BTN calling range and remove some low sc from flating range on the BTN and add it to 3bet range?

Hello, Sneakyhand here !

I like this strategy of crushing and moving up the limits and will try to follow your hints. I've been a cash/zoom player for a lot of time but I was never consistent enough to make it through. Basically I've played up to nl25 but it's been a while since I even played nl10.

I'm comfortable with the dynamics of zoom, lately I have got the courage to admit and convinced myself I have a leak - playing 6max zoom 4tables instead of 2 tables, I felt like I'm okay with the action and it doesn't stress me, I could play for 3 hours non-stop, but honestly not as efficiently as I would play 2 tables for just 1-2 hours.

I figured I have plenty of leaks and stuff to work on and so moving up the limits isn't the only goal, I have to work my game otherwise climbing nl5-10-25 will be useless as I'll lose money like crazy.

tl;dr I constructed the ranges, I used someone's xls file to calculate RoR and it figured I should be playing NL5 with 0% RoR .. Perhaps I didn't use it correctly.

Now I stand with 10k hands in nl2, 12.2bb/100 - just lucky.
BR is 107$

BRM plans are as follows;

NL5 - 125$, move down at 100$
NL10 - 250-300$ move down at 200-250$
NL25 - 750$ move down at like 600$

BRM plans may change according to how I feel about my game, If I feel I'm confident and progress shows I'm capable of taking aggressive shots - I might do that.

As for HUD setup;

Up until recently, I used very simple hud with just VPIP/PFR/3B/F3B/CB/FCB/AF/HANDS

Honestly I think it is enough for nl2 and nl5 - but I have expanded my HUD to get used to reading stats quickly so when I get to nl10 and beyond I will be used to the stats and will be reading them naturally.

New HUD;
Name/ N hands
vpip/pfr
3b/f3b/4b/f4b/sqz
rfi all pos
cb f,t,r/ fcb f,t,r
stl/f2stl

My popups are pretty much default which I think is a big bloody mess !

Someone has posted a HUD with separated panels, I used to have one like that, inspired by a russian MSS player in this vid;
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/25482/

Maybe I will go ahead and make a HUD like that again in the future, but for now I think my HUD is sufficient ;p