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GingerKid
GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007
Posts: 4,913
11.10.2014, 15:23

partypoker - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 144.05 BB (VPIP: 22.59, PFR: 18.05, 3Bet Preflop: 6.17, Hands: 12,008)
SB: 258.42 BB (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 17.61, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 1,979)
BB: 117.31 BB (VPIP: 26.49, PFR: 20.53, 3Bet Preflop: 12.00, Hands: 653)
UTG: 229.13 BB (VPIP: 28.39, PFR: 20.18, 3Bet Preflop: 11.19, Hands: 1,039)
MP: 99.19 BB (VPIP: 33.03, PFR: 25.57, 3Bet Preflop: 7.34, Hands: 3,095)
Hero (CO): 130.52 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9♦ 9♣

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players) J♥ 5♠ 8♥
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (6.5 BB, 3 players) Q♣
BB bets 3.09 BB, Hero calls 3.09 BB, BTN calls 3.09 BB

River: (15.77 BB, 3 players) 5♦
BB checks, Hero bets 21 BB, fold, fold

Spoiler

Hero wins 35.99 BB

Is it worth of cbetting 3way? somehow if cbet, I would have to give up almost allways, and they can even turn into bluff their 8x. so I hope to see free showdown or that everybody checks so I can value bet.
I would rather cbet 8x which I can later turn into bluff as a semi bluff and blocker?

River, I know I dont repp much after calling his small bet, but I could rep 5x and 3way it allways looks strong. but both of them are capt. I am not sure if call turn is good, bb bets agro, so he could be betting 8x, or draw.


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alphamonkey
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Joined: 27.12.2013
Posts: 101
11.10.2014, 15:37

My default is to cbet this board mwp with 99. As played, I think call turn is close for Ev.

About river, If villain is not balanced and dont have Qx , I like bet river, but with a stdd size 12bb(3/4) representing AQ,KQ.

If you overbet , I think villain would more times put you in a bluff like a KT,AK, but this depends a lot of villain thinking.

If villain have a high WTSD, 99 is a clearly check behind. And we may bluff only with some combos of AT/KT.


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GingerKid
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11.10.2014, 15:47

yeah but with 3/4 pot size I can also rep busted draw, and BU is kind of capt to exactly have Qx, so I expect to win 99 close to 0% if I check.


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alphamonkey
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11.10.2014, 15:55

Originally posted by GingerKid
yeah but with 3/4 pot size I can also rep busted draw, and BU is kind of capt to exactly have Qx, so I expect to win 99 close to 0% if I check.

we play vs BB, not vs BU.

I expect we would win some pots with check back river, vs hands like a 98s, T8s, 76s, AT ...

If villain folding enough I like bet with 99. If villain bluffcathing a lot, in this case bluff river less with hands like AT, KT and value bet more with KQ,AQ ...


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GingerKid
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11.10.2014, 17:54

probably you didnt notice that it is 3way and that BU called also on turn.


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w34z3l
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Joined: 03.08.2009
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13.10.2014, 10:03

Hey GingerKid,

I agree that we'd totally rather have 8x here than 99. However....giving a free card to 2 guys on this texture really sucks, making cbetting best option here.

Even on Q turn great spot to turn 99 into a bluff (if we cbet flop). We pick up a gutter and have straight blockers.

As played would raise turn.

River fine. I think overbetting or checking are both better than regular sizing.


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