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QTs, bet or check turn?

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m1ha1l
Joined: 27.06.2013

PokerStars - $1+$0.10|125/250 Ante 30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 20.15 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 89.62 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
BB: 60.48 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: 12 BB
MP: 114.42 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 18.48 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.22 BB) Hero has Q♠ T♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, SB calls 1.5 BB, fold

Flop: (5.72 BB, 2 players) J♦ 9♣ J♠
SB checks, Hero bets 2.29 BB, SB calls 2.29 BB

Turn: (10.3 BB, 2 players) Q♥
SB checks, Hero bets 4.12 BB, SB raises to 26 BB, fold

SB wins 18.53 BB


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OsoMeloso1
Joined: 11.08.2014

IMO you do not have a large enough stack to play poker. Shove PF with an edge over BU, SB, and BB calling ranges.


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sabo999
Joined: 11.06.2008

I think a fold here PF is fine..

As played its a tricky spot on the flop, I think its ok to check behind on that flop and take a free card given you have no stats on the SB.

Though Imo its an avoidable situation with the QT just fold it pre.

SabO! :club:


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StartlingGrope
Joined: 08.06.2014

I'm more or less with Sabo here. I don't mind raising pre-flop but I really just want to take the blinds down. Folding is fine too.

I think I prefer seeing a free card on the flop. I think betting is okay but if I hit any resistance then I'm done with the hand unless I get an 8 or a K on the turn.

The Q on the turn is such a poisoned chalice. Top pair is fine but given the pre-flop call I can't imagine a scenario where Villain will be folding to a bet and you don't have the stack to be looking for information. If he'd just called your bet then you're in a really tough spot on the river too as you're usually folding to any sort of action.


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LuckyLukePS
Joined: 28.08.2014

Disagree that we can fold button with a hand as strong as QTs here. I'm opening a lot wider in fact.

It's def fine to shove esp. post-antes, this is suitable esp. if we suspect villains are regulars who are active 3bettors. If we suspect they are likely fish, either nitty or passive, b/f will be better (bet/fold to shove).

As played I like your bet sizings on flop and turn, and when he shoves we don't love life but we have to call. You have to call 10.5bbs to win 25bbs, so you only need to be correct 29.6% of the time to break even. So we want say 31-32% here to call. Against a range of KK-AA (slow-played pre so giving him 50% of these only), T9o, T8s-T9s, J9s-JTs (half of the JTs), Q9s-QJs (half of the QJs) and KTs-KJs we have 43% equity, plenty. If we include all the combinations (ie. he never raises KK-AA or JTs or QJs pre), we still have almost 37%.


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1MOREMOR1
Joined: 04.05.2011

check behind flop and if at all then c-bet delayed blank! turns Q is not blank, but we pick up some kind of SD-value so just check behind or call a bet. try to get a free showdown here cause bet folding suchs ott bc we are getting raised off the best hand a decent amount of the time as well and like no worse hand will ever pay, they just raise so you gotta fold or fold to your valuebet? or what is it?. if you bet here you should have the nuts or close to.


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