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PLO 5 x-r flop bet turn

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helliaspapas
Joined: 07.03.2009

PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 283 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 106.2 BB (VPIP: 13.73, PFR: 3.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 99 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 101.6 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 134 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9c 9h 6s 6c
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.4 BB

Flop : (7.2 BB, 2 players) 8s 2s 5h
Hero checks, BTN bets 4.4 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN calls 7.6 BB

Turn : (31.2 BB, 2 players) 9d
Hero bets 30 BB, BTN calls 30 BB

River : (91.2 BB, 2 players) As
Hero checks, BTN bets 44.8 BB, fold

BTN wins 87.6 BB

I check raise flop cause I think this flop missed a lot my opponent and she's probably betting his QQxx KKxx and AAxx hands on the flop.Turn gives me a set and I bet pot. The ace on the river is a bad card for me, AAxx got there so did the flush draw. I elect to check fold .What do you think about it??


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1MOREMOR1
Joined: 04.05.2011

fold pre, cr awful cause u never get value from worse hands


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PerusJamppa
Joined: 18.01.2008

I would probably 3-bet this pre. For bonus there's some connectivity between the pairs and also one suit.

As played, if you want to win this hand, it's really hard to do by calling. You have only 3 outs to the nuts. 9's and 6's does give you at least additional equity if not even the nuts. You do block str8-draws which is nice.

What worries me is that we don't really know that much about villain. We don't know ~nothing about his range and we don't know whether he could/will fold overpairs. Because you have 9966 it blocks possible SD's so if he have hitted this table, more often it's some one pair type of hand or FD with overcards.
So what is he going to fold when you raise. Probably some plain overcards and ~air. What comes to the TP/OP we can only quess. FD's? Probably not unless it's really crappy. Or maybe he could call with that also, we just don't know. :(

Imo in PLO5 you make most of the money with value instead of bluffing so with only 8 hands on villain i wouldn't try to do any moves. Might be too weak, but i let Skod to judge that. :P

The idea of c-raising is basically fine. Usually players have more those big cards in their range (unless the villain is habitual blind stealer) so when you have blockers to the SD's, this table doesn't hit for them that often.
If villain calls you can start to barrelling him out of his hand unless for example :spade: comes to the table.
But in PLO5 i think it should use with caution.

As played i think you just have fold the river. FD's are quite big part of his range so without any reads there isn't that much to do..:(


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

calling is the best play here preflop by far. I liked how you played your hand, but sometimes people are stationy at these stakes, so be a bit careful and don't assume too much FE on the flop.

regards,

Skod


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helliaspapas
Joined: 07.03.2009

Thank you all especially PerusJamppa for your lengthy comment!


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Why calling preflop is superior to 3bet?


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Request for Skod to take another look, missed that in previous post. :)


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Originally posted by Kyyberi
Request for Skod to take another look, missed that in previous post. :)
Because we don't need to raise to get the flop HU as we are already there by closing the action. The hand has relatively poor playability postflop when we don't flop a set, and even if we do we are not guaranteed to have great equity; these type of hands also have very bad playability on turns if our cbets get called, and our ability to use blockers is severly reduced when the SPR is low.

All in all a 3bet isn't a bad play in itself, but i truly believe calling is far superior.

Regards,

Skod


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