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8.8$ 1R1A. AKo preflop?

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Pkrpains
Joined: 04.10.2010

PokerStars - $8+$0.80|800/1600 Ante 150 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 11.58 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG+1: 12 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 58.36 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP+1: 56.1 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP+2: 18.41 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (CO): 35.26 BB
BTN: 14.31 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 1)
SB: 44.64 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
BB: 12.14 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

9 players post ante of 0.09 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.34 BB) Hero has K♥ A♠

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2 BB, MP+2 raises to 18.32 BB and is all-in, Hero ?

Just moved to a new table, no hands on people. Close to the bubble. Easy shove?


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Pkrpains
Joined: 04.10.2010

Hand 2 of the same kind:

PokerStars - $5+$0.50|3500/7000 Ante 875 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 6.69 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
BB: 13.1 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 48)
UTG: 13.12 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG+1: 37.32 BB (VPIP: 22.05, PFR: 19.20, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 127)
MP: 22.22 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 11.90, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 48)
MP+1: 32.17 BB (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 17.74, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 64)
Hero (MP+2): 42.6 BB
CO: 20.65 BB (VPIP: 14.58, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 48)
BTN: 18.52 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has A♣ K♠

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2.06 BB, Hero ?

Going deep into the tourney, we have a nice stack. Do we want to 3bet pre here? We are obviously not 3bet/folding AK here, so in case he shoves, do we want to risk a potential deep run? Don't think he's going to 4bet light at all in this stage. So maybe flatting and keeping all hands we dominate is a better way?


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Crrrrrrr
Joined: 13.05.2012

Originally posted by Pkrpains
So maybe flatting and keeping all hands we dominate is a better way?

Why not 3bet/broke against a range you dominate?


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Pkrpains
Joined: 04.10.2010

Because we dominate his open raising range, but I dont think same can be said about his raise/4bet range. For example he's definitely opening KJ there, but IMO will usually fold when we 3 bet.


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iSoOwnYou
Joined: 27.11.2014

yes hand one easy shove i think


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Crrrrrrr
Joined: 13.05.2012

Originally posted by Pkrpains
Because we dominate his open raising range, but I dont think same can be said about his raise/4bet range. For example he's definitely opening KJ there, but IMO will usually fold when we 3 bet.

Standard play is to 3bet AKo in this spot. You need good reasons to deviate from this play.

There are hands he's going to call oop and there are some hands you dominate (AQ, AJ, maybe KQ) that he's going to 4-bet you with.

You also need to 3bet AK, because you can't have only QQ+ as your 3bet range. You add AK, you add some bluff. That way you increase your 3bet frequency, villains will make mistakes against you, and overall, you'll win more money.

Once you have solid basis, you can then go like "OK, this villain opens this range, I assume he's going to 4-bet me with this range and fold this range, so I'm going to 3bet with these hands and flatcall these hands". And if the maths say it's better to flat call AK against this villain, then OK, go for it. But in a vacuum, against the players at these stakes, without specific infos, EVmax with AK is to 3bet.


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Pkrpains
Joined: 04.10.2010

Thank you for your input. So in case he 4bets, we are rolling our eyes and stacking off, right?


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

Hey!

2 completely different hands. Please post them in the future in 2 seperate threads!
Hand 1 easy overshove

hand2 there are def. some arguments about flatting this hand if the openraiser would be tightish + a bigger stack!

Against 30bb 3b/c is alright. The problem is our bb 3ebetting range on lowlimits is super nut-typed. If we don't play against semi-regs or recreational players this 3bet pre doesn't have much profit!

Greets,
Tiltberger


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