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double GS + NFD deep on pairing turn

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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

iPoker - €2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: €725.20 (VPIP: 69.42, PFR: 34.89, 3Bet Preflop: 7.00, Hands: 1,129)
MP: €662.17 (VPIP: 39.44, PFR: 3.54, 3Bet Preflop: 2.64, Hands: 2,643)
CO: €2,282.42 (VPIP: 73.26, PFR: 31.25, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 291)
Hero (BTN): €343.80
SB: €257.40 (VPIP: 40.98, PFR: 9.80, 3Bet Preflop: 3.72, Hands: 516)
BB: €823.11 (VPIP: 30.75, PFR: 20.15, 3Bet Preflop: 6.36, Hands: 7,887)

SB posts SB €1.00, BB posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has K♥ 9♣ 7♣ A♥

UTG raises to €7.00, MP calls €7.00, CO raises to €31.00, Hero calls €31.00, fold, fold, UTG calls €24.00, MP calls €24.00

Flop: (€127.00, 4 players) J♥ 7♥ T♦
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets €127.00, UTG calls €127.00, fold, CO calls €127.00

Turn: (€508.00, 3 players) J♠
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets €185.80, UTG calls €185.80, CO raises to €1,000.96, fold

River: (€1,065.40, 2 players) 7♦

CO shows A♦ K♦ T♣ T♥ (Full House, Tens full of Jacks)
(Pre 61%, Flop 62%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks K♥ 9♣ 7♣ A♥ (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 39%, Flop 38%, Turn 0%)
CO wins €1,877.56

Preflop

So

UTG and CO are two loose fish who have decided to godmode 2015 and punish everybody, every day.

seriously, two fishs who make terrible mistakes pre and postflop, but just untouchables at this time

allways seeing things from space and personnaly drop ~2K€ to UTG and ~1.2K€ to CO, just insane run.

At this time, CO was 3betting almost 50%.
Though about 4bet him

My hand isn't really top for a multiway (doesn't connect very well), with A high suited and K high suited would be better of course

But don't want to give it up with some nutiness (ye... just A suited for the nutiness I know) and those clowns.

Flop

NFD + 2GS (one nut GS, one who's surely not good)

SPR ~2.5, just poted it, but maybe this not optimal, and I would make some ~80€ or whatever

Turn

pair on the board now...

ye just 180€ in a 500€ pot, it's very low.
But in an other way, it's allways almost 100bb.

Though sets would have ship the flop, but being both ultra deep, maybe they could softplay sets here in a straighty flop.

... anyway, JTxx are possible too, and those guys would never fold JTxx on the flop.

snap gii ingame but not sure that's the good play


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

pre: dunno...close in my eyes. Problem is that utg could wake up with a hand, on the other side he will be careful this deep oop to 4b. postflop u dont have good rel position. i´m tight maybe i would fold pre tbh.

As played:

Flop: this flop normally smash the coldcalling ranges. i´m really thinking of checking back here. the fishes will not give you that much credit when u hit ure nutout. it can´t be bad with your eq to bet here. dunno if we should pot or not

Turn: i mean spr is low but as u said its still around 100bb. because they are soo deep i see some sets or 2p just calling. i would ch turn and hope for the best.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

i think you played it fine. I think you are too shallow ott to do anything but jam, and you might even get hands with equity to fold. Kind of a silly spot, but here i think your outs should be live often enough to warrant seeing this big of a pot till the end.

Skod


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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

ok thx
and what do u think about preflop call ?


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

I don't love it, but if you think it's unlikely a 4bet is coming and the dynamics have been as they seem to have been, i guess a call is fine. You have to have a good reason for it; getting massive implieds if you hit for example.


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

hey skod, why do u think that a bet otf is better than too check behind. do u think we get a lot of folds otf vs this kind of villains? i mean its not a big problem to bet otf but i still like a check behind more. Whats the merrit for you?


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

well the question you have to ask yourself here is : do i get better hands to fold? Imho the answer is a strong yes. Even these passive players have to fold a bare J or T, so we have that going for us. So yeah i think betting is fine.

Skod


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