QQ blind vs blind

I think it is normal to stack off with QQ in yhe blinds battle.

Even with this tight reg?

I agree it is normal, but this player is folding almost everything vs steal and never 3bet before, so I wouldn't be very excited to stack off with QQ there. Maybe we can be a nit and find a fold here? It's probably not a mistake to stack off, anyway, but I wouldn't 4bet shove, rather do it to something like 29 bb's. Since this player probably doesn't have bluffs in his 3bet range, I don't expect him to continue with JJ, AQs and AK, so we are basically 4bet bluffing against KK+, which will never be successfull.

We've had 15rounds vs this villain. We could not make firm assumptions.

don't know why you directly shoved.Normal play would be 4bet/call. Also I'm not folding here blind vs blind with QQ.

If this is his first 3bet out of 15 times I would be more inclined to call. How many hands, how is his overall 3bet? Plus his high fold to cbet. And I don't like the shove also, just do a normal 4bet.

Shove is not ok, of course. Regular 4 bet is best.

Thanks guys. Flatting will make me OOP post tho. Will it be better to either 4bet/fold around 22-25bb or fold?

You are not folding here!!!

So call and play post-flop OOP is my only option then?

You said regular 4bet, so if I 4bet around 25-29 bb what will I do if he decided to shove?

Originally posted by cardman021
You said regular 4bet, so if I 4bet around 25-29 bb what will I do if he decided to shove?

You can't 4bet/fold QQ, so you have to call a shove.

Originally posted by cardman021
You said regular 4bet, so if I 4bet around 25-29 bb what will I do if he decided to shove?

It is easy-you will call the shove.

hmm.. okay, I thought so. But why not 3bet shove instead if we'll be calling a shove anyway. That's what I had in mind when I was playing the hand and shoved.

4bet/call keeps his range wider than if you just 3bet shove

Originally posted by jonnyZ
4bet/call keeps his range wider than if you just 3bet shove

Plus, sometimes you would be 4bet bluffing.

ah okay I got it, I think.. hehe

Another question, same spot. Let's say we are sure that our opponent's holding AK+ and KK. How would you play it?

Fold. Vs. AK, KK + you have 40 % equity. If you add the rake the things become worse. But I would consider folding only if I have good history with the guy.

Why raise so big pre vs a 88pct folding station?