5bet shove TT

I think you don`t have enough fold equity here since he`s folding 83% vs 3bet. When he 4bets it`s mostly for value.

Nothing like that actually. Villain only folds or 4 bets. He never called vs 3 bet.
His 4bet range on BU is 10%.

^What is your point? From 5 situations so far it is irrelevant his 4bet range by positions. From these stats we can only assume that he`s strong when he doesn`t fold to 3bet.

Hero doesn't have enough hands to make proper judgement for villain's 4bet + tendencies. Vs. this one who folds a lot to 3bets I prefer to call with TT. I prefer to 5bet bluff when I have blockers for his 5bet calling range. TT falls somehow in the middle - I personally won't feel comfortably to fold it to a 4bet neither to 5bet bluff with it.

I would say sample is too small to take this line. I wouldn't 5bet shove vs 10% with TT. JJ is bottom line vs that range.
Off course if it's a good enough sample tho

Originally posted by 2reac
^What is your point? From 5 situations so far it is irrelevant his 4bet range by positions. From these stats we can only assume that he`s strong when he doesn`t fold to 3bet.

My point is your assumptions are not correct. Sample is small and the stats you rely on in your analyses, you found yourself are not reliable.
Villain will not 4bet only for value here.
TT is a call here.

Do you mean call to the 4bet? Or to the open raise?

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by 2reac
^What is your point? From 5 situations so far it is irrelevant his 4bet range by positions. From these stats we can only assume that he`s strong when he doesn`t fold to 3bet.

My point is your assumptions are not correct. Sample is small and the stats you rely on in your analyses, you found yourself are not reliable.
Villain will not 4bet only for value here.
TT is a call here.

I didn`t say ONLY for value. I said MOSTLY for value.

Do you guys are both trying to say that the sample is to small to say if he is 4betting polarized or condensed and if he is ever folding to a 5bet?

Originally posted by VaskataBuci
Do you mean call to the 4bet? Or to the open raise?

Both are right. We should call the open raise first.
When we 3 bet we can call the 4bet...
Hmm...

Originally posted by VaskataBuci
Do you guys are both trying to say that the sample is to small to say if he is 4betting polarized or condensed and if he is ever folding to a 5bet?

If in 12 situations villain never called a 3 bet we can make assumption that he 4 bets depolarized. This is not a firm assumption and should be confirmed by seeing hands at showdown.
I may be wrong, tho...

Thanks for answer
I chose to shove because it would be difficult for me to play TT postflop.

So... Did you 5bet for value or to get a fold?

both, of course we prefer to get a fold

Originally posted by bonecore
both, of course we prefer to get a fold

both? sry mate, but always in poker you should know why you do the things you do, otherwise something needs to be improved in your thinking process.

Is ok when you have doubts, this is a never ending learning way and is perfectly fine ask for different opinions, but value 5 betting as a bluff is a big leak in your mental game.

Originally posted by Mandator

Originally posted by bonecore
both, of course we prefer to get a fold

both? sry mate, but always in poker you should know why you do the things you do, otherwise something needs to be improved in your thinking process.

Is ok when you have doubts, this is a never ending learning way and is perfectly fine ask for different opinions, but value 5 betting as a bluff is a big leak in your mental game.

Hero doesn't have enough info to say if it is absolutely for value or for bluff. It means - on one hand we could get enough folds for our 5bet to be profitable, on the other hand we don't mind to get called by hand like AJ, AQ, ATs.

Dont think he is going to call the 5bet with AJ AT?

OK, what do you think is his 4bet / fold and 4bet / call range. For now we reached to the assumption that he 4bets depolarized.

Hero is probably looking quite strong in his eyes with his 5bet here so I belive he is calling with something like JJ+and AK? Not sure, its more of a question than a allegation