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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Quick update:

Analyzed hands and saw a lot of setups + only couple of spots where I could have avoided loosing a stat. Overall feel very strong about my game plan at current stakes and will just keep on pushing.

Main 2 things to mention:
- I will add 888 into the mix for table selecting
- I plan to increase my grind to 5 hours steady daily

1st decision is very +EV because 888 is soft and people make double digit win rates there so without RB I can get 10bb/100 which is my target for the challenge. For 2nd decision it is due to (un)expected life expenses. I spent about 900 euro in those 17 days and pretty much all the money that I made so far in the challenge after 12 days left me at BE ! So I want to step it up more with grinding to play even more hands and make more money. It will not be the end of the world if I don't make 5k by the 23rd of September but I would at least like to have 2-3k extra to take with me to USA and then set up some grinding there also if possible.

This is all for the update - time to hit the tables and go for 5 hours grind!


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Quick update:

Yesterday played 5 hours or a bit more of poker. Also coached and worked on the game with friend and fellow reg elpsycho. Very productive day overall.
Today Partizan Belgrade plays in the evening so 2 hours are set aside. Also have a coaching session + plan to play 5 hours as well and work on the game. Another thing I plan to do today is add 888.
Will update the challenge today or tomorrow when I get 45 minutes or so before bed without feeling super tired.

Enjoy remaining of the week on and off the tables!


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Quick update:

Played close to 6 hours of poker today + coached and did sweat session with elpsycho. Added 888 poker and it feels good so far...
Watched Partizan Belgrade game, we lost 1-0 away vs BATE and got a red card close to the end of 1st half. In 8 days is game in Belgrade and I will definitely be there!

Other life things - talk constantly with my best friend in Boston and rest of the friends in USA + hang out with my best friend for coffee and do my best to respond to all the questions over the skype.

Things are getting easier from this point on as a lot of uncertainty and doubt is behind me, I am left to go down the CG road on my own exclusively in the current state. When things change in future I will consider different options but right now no option is the best except working on my own and continuing to work with elpsycho.

Enjoy remaining of the week, update with graphs coming in future days!


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iSoOwnYou
Joined: 27.11.2014

Nice, sounds like you're in a nice mental space at the moment. :f_drink:


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kacekov
Joined: 21.06.2009

ok spent the last couple of days Reading ur blog from january 1st 2015 (im at work so i read slower than normal :P)

i have to say it is a big read to do and though one but its damn inspiring and always wanted to read more.
also read darko's blog and talked a bit with him.

ur work ethic and motivativation overall shames us all and its a true inspiration and makes every1 just want to push a bit harder :P.

some great thing going over this blog (subbed) and gonna read everyword from today onwards too.

u have some great challenges and i hope u make them all.

on a side note. i had already subbed ur blog before, cause u were doing sng's blog and i was planning to go ham on sng grinding but then i saw u switched to cg and i stopped the Reading (big mistake on my part). may i suggest u change the title to somethin that quickly tells ur story like from sngs to cg or something and/or edit first post with a quick update of the blog so far. (for ur blog followers its no big deal but for new follower they enter it, as i did, expecting a sng blog and then u talk about cash games)

i say the same to you as i did to darko, even if u accomplish nothing on the tables (which im 200% sure it won't happen) you are a champion on hard work and desserve the golden bracelet just for that.

im trully keen on going all in with a poker career once poker becomes "legal" again in Portugal and ur blog is the definition of a +EV read both on technical and mental aspects of the game. will work my ass off to be at least 1/2 of the hard worker u seem to be.

good luck with everything on and off the table.

kacekov


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iSoOwnYou
Joined: 27.11.2014

@kacekov Nice comments, you've encouraged me read from beginning now too!


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kacekov
Joined: 21.06.2009

i didnt read from the beginning :) page 128 is where i started. would take me a month to read the full blog :P but yea go read since january 1st it is a very good read


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Quick update:

Past couple of days I have been working hard with elpsycho, coaching and grinding a lot. Challenge update will happen in the near future but I can't say exactly when since I have tons of things going on right now. I will do end of month update for sure and hopefully find 1-2 hours before that for longer update!

Thank You in advance for being patient!


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Important update:

Poker related
Past 2 had massive problems with computer and HM2. Post SQL went crazy and took 45gbs of my C: hard drive. This happened once before when I used HM1 and twice now on HM2. I had to reinstall it, had only some hands that I had to re-import and it should be good to go from this point on.
Also, I was working a lot past days with elpsycho. I am very great full to have meet him and have him as a friend in my life since December last year. He helped me so much with technology things related to HM2 and HUD problems + on top of that he is just beast when it comes to other useful software such as CREV and Flopzilla. So I have just words of praise for him and it really means a lot that I have somebody who is on the same path with me and takes out time to help out besides his super busy schedule. You will find very rare people in the world who are willing to work together for their common goals and elpsycho is one of those good guys. My guess is that within 1 year from now, he will be playing and winning on NL200 pre RB easily, as soon as he shifts his full time focus to poker from his original full time job. In the meanwhile, I plan to continue working with him and together we will achieve great things - I have no doubt in that!
Another new thing is that I started working now more on exploiting every opponents tendency and leak. In 2015 there is still lots of money to be made and regs are still very exploitable, especially on nl50-100 even 200. So every day, I will do leak finder for different regs on my limit 30 minutes, and take notes for them and exploit those tendencies in real game. Very much look forward to this mini project as it will add insane edge to my win rate.

USA trip:
Talked to my best friend and other friends in Boston. In past 15 days or so since I started challenge I had a lot of expenses. Some of them were poker related but most of them were life related and somewhat expected I guess. So basically in this period I could have bought a ticket for 23rd and had some money , if there weren't for those unexpected expenses. Now that is not the case anymore and what I did yesterday was let my best friend and other friends know that I might not make 23rd of September as the date in Boston.
I am in depth evaluating the most +EV life line for me. I can go to Boston for couple of weeks, visit NYC couple of weekends and get back. That is always an option and it wouldn't cost me much, like 1.5k$ including the ticket. But I would much more like to go for 7 weeks or so, visit NYC, Washington, Chicago and be in Vegas full week + be longer in Boston on average and get to see most of my friends this way. This would cost me minimum 3.5k$, and that is like with somewhat budget spending daily. So yeah, it seems right now with current situation I can go to Boston and NYC, hang couple of weeks and get back or wait more time and make additional 5k+$ and then go. Another thing to consider is weather and holidays. Tickets would cost more during holiday season while being in USA during winter time is not as "fun" as during autumn (snow can be brutal during winter season).
I have made the decision to buy ticket 10 days before the trip regardless of when I get the money I feel I need for it! So that is something that is definitely decided.

Related to USA, I have been looking into all sorts of options over there, every day or every other day. I am not closing door to any opportunities but will make my decision when I go there and see the actual situation on the spot. Also hope that poker can work while in USA, like most people play Bovada or live or go to Canada?!? So I will see what kind of opportunities will open up while I am there but so far I have gotten some very useful feedback and options for me.

Enjoy your Sunday on and off the tables!

P.S. I will update challenge with the graphs probably by 23rd or September on some day. Instead I will let you know how new hud, exploiting regs is going and how many tables I am playing now with more focus etc


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Today

Played never more than 6 tables, table selected well, used new HUD with total focus to the point of timing out on 4-5 ocasions. Shopped with QQ vs AA BTN vs BB pf all in, pf got set up with KK vs AA vs fish, lost TT vs AQo vs fish, lost in 4 bet pot QQ vs AA BTN vs BB vs reg 40bbs only, lost with AA on J85 two tone vs fish who shoved IP (55) etc
Overall, very happy that studying keeps going strong and that today I grinded a bit over 4 hours without any problems whatsoever. Lesser tables makes it easier to do 4 hours that is for sure. The real test in future days will be to keep improving my new HUD and exploit opponents + keep table selecting and fix my own leaks through studying theory and ranges.

More updates in future, for now just wanted to share the result of new hud, lesser tables, better table selection and more confidence thanks to leak finding and fixing with my friend elpsycho!


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Yesterday (24th of August 2015)

Continued to table select and play up to 6 tables. Focus was strong, decision making was good for the most part.
There are couple of hands which I misplayed or just felt the reg was over bluffing in such spots. In the beginning lost 1 stack with such call, later on things turned around as I was exploiting most if not all players on all tables effectively. For exploitable reasons in another hand I double barreled in 3 bet pot and folded to shove even though this hand could have worked as check IP on the turn. Once I did in depth analysis for it, I realized that turning it into a bluff is not such a bad idea only if it continues to do so 3 streets (which was initial plan). So I am happy with that hand even though I double barreled and folded to turn x/shove. Another hand that I am happy but I lost a whole stack was SB vs BTN 3 bet pot. I 3 barrel showed on KdJd9h5c7h with AhQh. Opponent who was aggressive pre flop actually called down with AKo which is weird cause I expected him to have it in his 4 betting range BTN vs SB. Regardless of the fact that I lost that hand, it was very +EV for so many reasons. Opponent on average calls there TPTK+ hands and folds all the weaker. When I did in depth range analysis I saw that it was very +EV because I am blocking a lot of his value combos with my bluffs + on average they are over folding in such spot (example they don't call off Jx 3 barrels here). Also, my range is very value heavy on this board for 3 barreling and value to bluff ratios favors value hands to something like 3.5:1 or so from top of my head. I have QTs as a straight, all the sets from flop (99,JJ KK), over pair AA, TPTK, TPSK. Of course on the river I am never shoving KQ but more like AK+ since most guys call off here KQ KT even as bottom of their range. So despite loosing a stack there, I am very happy the way hand played out + the actual holding I had was blocking value calling range from opponent (AK , KQ, QT!).
Other than those hands, I did loose pre flop with AA vs KdJd where flop came 3 diamonds, turn J, river blank, opponent had 2nd nut flush while I had from flop over pair + nut fd. So despite the blocker and getting it in pre flop, I didn't hold there, and you can see that in the graph around 1.3k hands.

When it comes to number of hours, I played 4 just like yesterday and I can definitely do 5 or more which I plan to implement from today just sticking to the same principles - up to 6 tables, maximum focus and table selection, shorter sessions and implementing exploitation of all opponents.
I would evaluate yesterday's grind with 6.5/10. There were times where I played A game, B game also but there was that 1 hand that I messed up in the very beginning which dropped down my win rate by half stack or so!

Besides all the grinding, I did study a lot yesterday. A lot being 4+ hours. Did work in CREV with different ranges and frequencies. Also watched 1st half of video that has excellent theory and concept that I need to re-watch and do the assignments for. In the evening I studied together with elpsycho focusing on 2 areas CREV and improving HUD + finding specific leaks from certain reg. Overall very happy with how studying habit has been refined past 4-5 days, the whole day just flies now and I feel I am getting very quickly back in the zone for poker activities 9+ hours. This approach will certainly give results in very near future - I feel I am right there to crush this NL50 but I also know that nothing comes easy to me in my life and I have to work 10x harder then average person to understand everything well and strong to make it part of my auto pilot knowledge.

Past 2 days, 3k hands +7 stacks. EV 23.8bb/100 running at 26.4bb/100. The funny thing is that this wasn't even upswing type of run. Sure there were pre flop all ins but also I was getting massively payed off by recreational players, my bluffing was going through, my value betting was excellent (got called with 2nd pair or worse on river dozen times vs right sizing), my calls on river were spot on thanks to new things implemented in the HUD... Overall things are looking strong but I still have a lot of work to do as besides exploitative approach I want to understand everything and why I am doing it which is much closer to GTO approach type of studying and to me this is priceless - it will never go out of date to learn it!

Today's time management will consist of following things:
- Studying minimum 3 hours (CREV, HUD improvement + leak finder of regs, re-watching a video and taking notes to implement it in the session, studying with elpsycho in the evening)
- Grinding minimum 5 hours (3-4 sessions, up to 6 tables, maximum focus, exploiting leaks from all the opponents + implementing new concept from latest video study)
- Eating well and taking enough brakes for regeneration
- Possibly meeting with best friend for coffee later today

By the way, tomorrow my team Partizan Belgrade plays rematch vs BATE Borisov in play off for Champions League. Of course, I am going to Belgrade and about 35 hours before the game, I am super psyched and can't wait to go there cheer whole game, bring additional energy to my team to enter Champions League group stages and then celebrations can begin!

Enjoy your day and week on and off the tables!


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

This blog somehow always inspires me:f_drink: Keep up the good work:s_thumbsup:


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Originally posted by VaskataBuci
This blog somehow always inspires me:f_drink: Keep up the good work:s_thumbsup:

Appreciate it Vaskata!
Nice to see you around. You are playing CG also right? How is that going?


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Yesterday (25th August 2015)

Played 6 hours and studied 3 hours. The could have ended positive despite 2 stacks - pre RB, also there were setup ups 3 buy ins worth with 2nd nuts vs nuts flush, nothing I could do there to prevent it. When it comes to actual playing, there were hands that I did not play well which is definitely not good, will just list some. QQ in 4 bet pot where I missed to value shove turn on 3332 instead checked where river came T and opponent shoved and won with FH TT over 33. Isolated AJ vs HJ limp and SB complete, flop was KQ4 , turn 4, river T, hand went check down to the river and I value bet it when opponent from SB x/shoved whole stack, I called with strongest straight but of course opponent had quads of 44 - feel I could have folded in such spots and just called boats and quads obviously, will check this hand more in CREV. Another hand 3 bet pot with AJo, 3 barrel shoved top 2 pairs (got top 2 on the river) when the best play was to check river and induce bluff from opponent IP, run out was 5sJc8s 6c As, opponent called river shove with JsTs so he got there with flush on the river - hand would have ended the same way, just the line I took with bet/bet/bet is not best one. JJ 4 bet pot OOP vs squeezer on BTN on 9c5d7d bet/called raise instead of shove if I feel I was ahead in such a spot (opponent slow played to 4 bet AA).There were also hands that I lost but couldn't do anything about like 3 stacks worth in 2 hands with 2nd nut flushes vs aggro opponents, top set in HU limp/3 bet pot OOP where fish c bet pot on Th7h6c and I x/shove TcTs and he calls with KcJc and hits runner runner straight with Qd and Ah :)
Overall, feel that yesterday there were miss played hands and that is never good IMO. I need to reach a point where in every session I play on average I don't have more then 2 mistakes , for large pots none! Once I reach this, results will start to sky rocket and graph will be true giraffe :) Until then, there are swings which are inevitable due to light call downs from opponents also but also setups and as I mentioned miss played hands!
So I would rate my grind yesterday 4/10 since there were more mistakes then I anticipated and definitely could have had at least a BE day despite all the setups.

Time management for today:
- Grind 2-3 hours now NL25 zoom (no traffic now for NL50)
- Prepare and go to Belgrade around 2 or 3pm
- Enjoy it, cheer and support Partizan Belgrade to Champions League group stages!!!
- Get back home safe at late evening around 1-2am or so , hit the bed and resume with 6 hour grinding and 3 hours studying.

Enjoy your day on and of the tables and may Partizan Belgrade win tonight!


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Quick update

I have been away to Belgrade for the game (we won 2-1 but BATE went to CL) and after that there were lots of family related activities and some spending times with friends.
Poker wise, things were going really well those past 4-5 days, was up 6 stacks or more at some point, tonight I had brutal day with -5 stacks in 5 hours of play. Will definitely evaluate tomorrow all the mistakes from this session. Results wise for past 4-5 days are BE but I definitely felt I could have made more money.

Final thing to mention is related to USA trip
I decided to go there on 23rd of September regardless of the challenge, results or even money situation for that matter. I can always move down stakes to nl25 rebuild and hit back nl50 again. The problem this month besides poker results were other huge expenses but I am learning to deal with it long term which will require me to move away one way or the other.

About actual studying, I did it on my own and with elpsycho + got help from brutal reg on occasions but my CREV is not working for 2 days and it is not good. I am mostly going through hands and checking stats and leaks.

Finally, I am considering to move to nl25 and grind 100 hours there before leaving to USA. Realistically it will be about 5 hours per day grinding and I can decrease variance, increase a bit life roll and feel even more safe for USA trip. Once I get there, I will see what the options are for both poker and my life situation. I am already considering moving there for good at this point but I will not make any rushed decision but rather weight all pros and cons of living in Serbia vs USA and then make my decision. For now I will visit Boston for 4 weeks along with NYC, spend time with my best friend and other friends, check out work opportunities and just have great time going to jazz gigs and different events. If things open up I will strongly consider relocating but only with clear head once I return to Serbia and do all pros and cons for days and weeks!

Enjoy remaining of the week on and off the table and here is the graph since I got back from Belgrade on 27th of August:


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Quick update

Grinded 5 hours, had coffee with best friend and couple of very important developments going on outside of poker.
Grinding went well, made 3 stacks or so and more importantly focus was among the best overall with tons of huge lay downs (top 2, top sets and such), made 1 questionable call with FH after I x/r flop top 2 , hit FH and checked and river brought straight (KQxKA) and I checked opponent shoved I called with KQ he turned AK. Besides that hand there were smaller pots that I will check in depth tomorrow.
One more thing, checked HM2 minutes played and divided by 60 , over 120 hours of grind in August (more like over 130 because of laptop grinding) despite visiting Belgrade 3 times and tons of family and friends meetings. So I am more then pleased when I look at back August. I will aim to make September as productive before leaving to USA.


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008

be careful when multisiting/playing multiple stakes/currencies and counting hours played... if you play say one $ and one € table, HEM2 will show time for both, add it up and pretty much double your hours... :f_biggrin: but no doubt you are putting in insane efforts, hat off to you!! :f_love:


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vladd20
Joined: 22.10.2008

Hi, glad to see you transitioned well from sngs, I'm curios of the winrate you got on nl25 zoom, I played a lot in the past and got like 2bbs/100 4 tabling, while making a lot of mistakes, just curios what kind of winrates can be made over big sample, my sample 200k ish


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Originally posted by vonki
be careful when multisiting/playing multiple stakes/currencies and counting hours played... if you play say one $ and one € table, HEM2 will show time for both, add it up and pretty much double your hours... :f_biggrin: but no doubt you are putting in insane efforts, hat off to you!! :f_love:

Hey Vonki,
Thanks for pointing it out for others, I noticed this in the very beginning once I added this as stats in HM2. I always use bigger sample cause I play nl50 for both $ and euro and I just pick the bigger number of the 2, never add them up!
Results are turning around for sure, I got a hold of tendencies way better then month or more ago , making some huge lay downs and decreased bluffing frequency in some spots which will result long term into better win rate for sure. _drink:


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Originally posted by vladd20
Hi, glad to see you transitioned well from sngs, I'm curios of the winrate you got on nl25 zoom, I played a lot in the past and got like 2bbs/100 4 tabling, while making a lot of mistakes, just curios what kind of winrates can be made over big sample, my sample 200k ish

Hi Vladd20,
I am not doing that good :) Personally I feel day in and out that I am really struggling with CG. Development wise, I improved as a poker player 100 times more then when I was playing SNGs. That part makes me very happy and I am thrilled to be improving and moving my threshold for knowledge daily. However, CG for 100bb and less stacks is played a lot differently, ranges are different, betting raising and call down frequencies also. I am nowhere near perfect in fact I made both bad bets and calls in this period and think I will still keep doing it. It takes in my opinion a great full time teacher to point you all these things out and work with you range vs range on all different textures. I haven't done this in depth yet and I took about 30ish hours of coaching with w34z3l in past 7-8 months. In the meanwhile I looked into full time deal with one of my poker idols but was offered with certain condition I could not full fill at that time. So past couple of months I am doing things on my own mostly and we all know how difficult it is to keep yourself motivated especially when results are not great! So yeah, once I do these things with my study partner elpsycho I can expect to dominate range vs range in any spot in future and have auto pilot worked to very strong win rate (which is the whole point for mass multi tabling).
As far as win rate goes for nl25, I am desktop computer now, I grinded it mostly on my laptop so I can't say for sure. Was 4 tabling and I had anywhere between 4bb and 10bb. I am not sure how much because this was 2+ months ago and my game then and now has evolved so I would expect higher win rate naturally now. I think you can definitely have double digit ROI on this level but it requires very strong initial game plan + reading textures with opponents frequencies super well and no light call downs!!!

I wish you GL with your CG road and to stick with it. Once you surpass the NL25 with around 7bb+, you can then expect positive win rate on NL50 and that means 3-4k euro or $ months on average post rb.


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