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NL5 JJ on AQQ board

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Pnnkaznk
Joined: 13.11.2009

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 106.4 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (SB): 125.2 BB
BB: 80.4 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 130.6 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 7)
MP: 117.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♣ J♦

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, CO calls 6.6 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) A♠ Q♦ Q♠
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (19 BB, 2 players) 5♦
Hero checks, CO bets 12 BB, fold

CO wins 18.2 BB

Wuld you CBET this flop!?


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

I don´t like cbet here. Nothing worse calls us. Villain can has solid number of Ax and Qx hands. Even turn is probably fine, I would expect him bluff more directly on flop.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I would not 3 bet preflop.
Board is awful, do not like to cbet here.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I also would not to 3bet preflop, but probably nothing wrong with it, especially if we think (have a read) that will often get calls by worse hands. Postflop is well played, I think.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

not 3betting JJ SB vs CO?

i am 3betting stacking with that vs a reg, are you only 3betting QQ+,AK + some bluffs? whats our 3bet range here assuming average CO opening range

maybe it's easier to call it at these stakes because not enough 4b-bluffing


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I missread the hand. From SB vs CO I am 3 betting JJ.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

Originally posted by mattyvx
not 3betting JJ SB vs CO?

i am 3betting stacking with that vs a reg, are you only 3betting QQ+,AK + some bluffs? whats our 3bet range here assuming average CO opening range

maybe it's easier to call it at these stakes because not enough 4b-bluffing

I´m not happy to stack off JJ here vs unknown on NL5 zoom since majority of people don´t 4bet-bluff enough. Can be OK on higher stakes.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I believe that if we 3bet for value, we can't continue if he 4bets because the worst hand I expect to be against is AK. But we could be called by worse, that's true. Probably 3betting is more profitable than calling, my mistake.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Ales851

Originally posted by mattyvx
not 3betting JJ SB vs CO?

maybe it's easier to call it at these stakes because not enough 4b-bluffing

I´m not happy to stack off JJ here vs unknown on NL5 zoom since majority of people don´t 4bet-bluff enough. Can be OK on higher stakes.

i am 3betting stacking with that vs a reg, are you only 3betting QQ+,AK + some bluffs? whats our 3bet range here assuming average CO opening range
I don't mind stacking off here - JJ+, AK.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

Originally posted by Alleen86
I believe that if we 3bet for value, we can't continue if he 4bets because the worst hand I expect to be against is AK. But we could be called by worse, that's true. Probably 3betting is more profitable than calling, my mistake.

I agree that 3bet with intention to fold after 4bet can be good against plenty of opponents on these stakes. Sometimes I´m not sure about 3bet or call when on small sample villain looks regish but don´t have info about his 4bet tendencies yet.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Treat him as unknown.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

yeah if people dont 4bet enough but call of of 3bets then pretty easy value 3bet but fold to bet?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Maybe so, if that is the case.


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