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NL6, 6-max, TPGK river cbet vs shove

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Zanardi1
Joined: 04.01.2010

Pacific, $0.03/$0.06 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $7.81 (130.2 bb)
BB: $6 (100 bb)
UTG: $6.36 (106 bb)
Hero (MP): $6.84 (114 bb)
CO: $6.23 (103.8 bb)
BTN: $6.98 (116.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.18, CO calls $0.18, BTN folds, SB calls $0.15, BB folds

Flop: ($0.60) 7 K A (3 players)
SB folds, Hero bets $0.45, CO calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.12, CO calls $1.12

River: ($3.74) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.77, CO raises to $4.48 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $7.28 pot ($0.42 rake)
Final Board: 7 K A 2 2
Hero mucked J A and lost (-$3.52 net)
CO mucked and won $6.86 ($3.34 net)

The villain is 24/18 from 421 hands, Afq: 40.5%, fold to/raise/call cbet IP: 33/25/42 (12), fold to turn cbet: 25%(4)

I cbet and turn cbet for value from smaller aces. The river counterfeits my kicker so, here, I am splitting with :Ax: If he is not trying to bluff me from the split, he could only have a slowplayed set which turned into a full house.

Is my fold good or not?


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xin1575
Joined: 22.10.2015

I think the fold is good. His line is so strong here and there aren't any draws on the board, so yeah I agree this screams FH to me....maybe AK. From villain's point of view, you are strongly repping an Ace, so he's likely to have that beat.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

I'd be so tempted to call because the value range is so narrow (does he really flat KK/AK pre) but his bluff range is pretty narrow as well. I doubt a NL5 reg, even one as solid-looking as him, is going to be sophisticated enough to try and get you off Ax here. It's a fantastic line from him with AT or something, though!


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kriko92
Joined: 16.11.2010

Why do you bet river?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not think we can seek 3 streets of value here. River bet is too much.


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

I think checking river is an option. We are mostly splitting here, so no need for value bet. On the contrary, he shouldn't have any bluffs in his range here, except if he had a backdoor flush-draw on turn. However, I doubt that most of the villains won't bluff-raise it on river.

So as played, fold.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I don't see this as a bluff, folding is good. I also don't think we have 3 streets of value with our hand.


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ovatsuG21
Joined: 03.05.2009

You can also consider check/calling the flop.

River is a very bad situation. You can't value bet or check/call.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Just x/c otr, you could've actually induced a blind bluff


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

if we x the turn are we calling the river? we could maybe bet smaller otr like 1/3 od the pot?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We can xc river if face a normal size bet.
If we x turn we can call river too.


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ovatsuG21
Joined: 03.05.2009

Why check/call?? There are no bluffs in villain range.
Would you call twice in a multiway pot and bet the river vs missed 3 barrel with hands like 88? In a vacuum that's a rare and tuff situation because either value bet ou check/call is kinda bad.
Imo the earlier streets made that situation for hero.
We could either check/call or bet smaller OTF and OTT.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Originally posted by ovatsuG21
Why check/call?? There are no bluffs in villain range.
Would you call twice in a multiway pot and bet the river vs missed 3 barrel with hands like 88? In a vacuum that's a rare and tuff situation because either value bet ou check/call is kinda bad.
Imo the earlier streets made that situation for hero.
We could either check/call or bet smaller OTF and OTT.

I do not consider his range excessively relevant in order to induce a bluff, both flop and turn are pure deal of value


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caltabiano
Joined: 09.03.2007

I definitely bet flop as well... But how about a ch on the turn? That could be a decent line, and then bet river if he checks behind.
As played, I don't bet river, because we lost the kicker, so no reason to bet... and yeah, fold to his bet. I know his range is narrow, but when they have it, they have it. And sometimes, by villain's line, the only thing they can have is the full house. It's always tempting to call because of : "ohhh, come on, there are only 3 combos of 77, there's NO WAY he can have it" But there are situations that he will have it ALWAYS, and this might be one of the cases.

He could have AA or AK as well, I guess, but it's less likely.

So, very nice fold IMO, sir =)


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

definitely don't bet river. xc is decent against this guy, he seems the type to float a lot of garbage and there's not much he can bet for value


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