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Originally posted by Afulibador
If thats a support, Alleen, I appreciate it ♠_biggrin:
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Originally posted by nitrol
There is nothing wrong with the 2nd barrel. Works fine.
Its all about adapting vs what villains are doing.
I would sooner go all-in than fold here.... though I'd probably just call.
He doesn't need to be bluffing for you to still have him beat... he could have 2 pair or a set and probably doesn't expect you to have the flush with how you've been betting. Hell, he might be holding AA and be trying to let you c-bet yourself to death. I think there's a lot of hands that could inspire him to make a huge bet like this, and only a couple of those beat your Q-flush.
Either way it's too good to lay down imho. I'll agree it's tough when you don't have a decent read on him yet, but maybe you're giving random person on NL10 too much credit?
He could have the higher flush but if so, like la55i said... shit happens. I don't think I could ever fold.
clushaaa, imho 2 pairs, sets and such are all raising the turn.
Too many draws (for flush and straight) that can break these hands on the river.
Originally posted by clushaaa
I would sooner go all-in than fold here.... though I'd probably just call.He doesn't need to be bluffing for you to still have him beat... he could have 2 pair or a set and probably doesn't expect you to have the flush with how you've been betting. Hell, he might be holding AA and be trying to let you c-bet yourself to death. I think there's a lot of hands that could inspire him to make a huge bet like this, and only a couple of those beat your Q-flush.
Either way it's too good to lay down imho. I'll agree it's tough when you don't have a decent read on him yet, but maybe you're giving random person on NL10 too much credit?
He could have the higher flush but if so, like la55i said... shit happens. I don't think I could ever fold.
The question is- is he playing smaller flushes like that. Cause sets and straights will play different on turn. Do you see bluffs there?
Yeah a turn should be played differently from villains perspective with those hands, but from my (limited) experience a theoretically sound re-raise is easily overlooked by a lot of players. They just don't happen as often as they should. Underestimating your opponents can be a costly affair, but to be honest I probably lost more money overestimating them. With a Queen high flush, backdoor no less, I think I'll take my chances.
It's the size of his bet that's scary, but that might be weakness, over-confidence or the actual nuts. 2 out of 3 we win 
Originally posted by clushaaa
2 out of 3 we win
My experience is quite different at those spots. I think when I call those without the nuts or closelly to the nuts, the call is usually not profitable (not profitable in 30%+ of cases). But might just be that my glass is always half empty and yours is always half full.
It is not about the glass. I do not feel ok in this spot too. Are you ready to fold when you hit?
Originally posted by nitrol
It is not about the glass. I do not feel ok in this spot too. Are you ready to fold when you hit?
Yeah, I folded in that case. I feel it's an optimal move in that particular situation.
Now that I re-watched the hand I think your fold is the best move. Villain may not 3bet weaker flushes but the nut he will.
the flop is dry , A scary card, so there is no need to invest too much 1/3Pot - 2/5 Pot is normally enough. OTT, there is a flush draw opening, If I have an ace, I want to protect and get value from calling flush draw; If I hit my backdoor I want to bet the same as a strong ace as I want to disguise my flush, so I would bet a bit more (just over 1/2 pot)
OTR now it is complex because you have not repped a flush at all during your play you have repped a strong ace , 2 pairs IMO. First in this pot I would raise more like $1.8 - $1.9. then it is a tight call /fold with a raise because it really looks like he has the flush and him calling the flop indicate strongly that it would be the A high flush. I diont see him calling much else? 56s 67? I hardly think so but maybe. So I would go toward a fold and curse at the screen for a bit (and later feel great about a great fold I just made 
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The question is- is he playing smaller flushes like that. Cause sets and straights will play different on turn. Do you see bluffs there?
Definitely, not many to make this call that good.
Originally posted by clushaaa
Underestimating your opponents can be a costly affair, but to be honest I probably lost more money overestimating them. With a Queen high flush, backdoor no less, I think I'll take my chances.
It can be a costly call cause raises on the river, in this limit, is heavily weighted on value (nutty hands).
I agree, thazar.
Axs surely is on his range and fits very well w the way villain played that hand.
We block a lot of AdXd. He can't have AQ/AJ and we can discount AK too when he flats pre. A6dd surely raises flop or turn. That's only five nut flush combos, plus KTdd (which he may not even call preflop), in his range that beat us.
He can have 75dd, 76dd, 65dd quite easily and raise them quite easily since it's so unlikely we have a flush. Our hand looks like A9, 66, etc. He only needs to be misguidedly raising 7s5s or A6s for value (or indeed turn a hand like AdTx into a bluff) a few times for this to be a profitable call.
It's quite tight, so it's player-dependent. In this case we know nothing about him so I would sigh-call.
MJPerry, u got an interesting point. Many middling cards are on play, making way less Ax possible (A3-A5 and AT still good candidates).