77 - 993 board facing donk bet

I think flop call is good. From coaches what I have heard - there is no single hand making sense to raise on such dry flop.

Of course we are not protecting then vs overs. But maybe this is too high price for us to protect.

On turn I would not give such wide range to unknown fish oponent. I would reduce it to smth like:

88+, 33, A9, K9, Q9, J9, T9, 96s+, 96o+, TJ

And I think we are beat most often and so fold should be correct.

We can call once on flopbut I think we should fold the turn as we are behind most of the time.

This flop is so dry that I think calling once is ok too.
When he double barrels, u can let this hand go and give him some credit.

Originally posted by thebaptist333
OTF the only hand I put him on that beats me are 9x type hands, or 88 and TT. I'm pretty sure he's 3betting JJ+ pre. Maybe he's just calling in the blinds with AA and KK, but then why would he donk the flop?

I don't understand why you are so sure he is 3betting JJ. He almost never has AA/KK, QQ is usually 3bet, JJ is usually call and TT is almost always call. Flop he can donk with anything so calling is fine, turn is close but probably fold (he can still bet some weaker pairs) and river is definitely a fold.

what do you guys think is the weakest thand which we call down all 3 bets? For example if we have AA - do we raise turn or do we call still to have a bluffcatcher on river?

I am not sure if we are not misseing value by calling turn with AA. Those spots are not clear for me.

I mean we want to have some call down range here right? because fish will bet 3 streets some of time. OF course he will not exploit if he is unknown. So we can just fold hands like 77 and raise strong hands for value and get even more money than calling.

But proably some hands are not strong enough to raise. Maybe with QQ we can call 3 streets?

You are (now) thinking along the right lines. But I think QQ is too weak to call three streets with. Remember, even a hand like 97s is a bluff catcher on the river.

Personally, I would have actually raised on the flop and hope to take it down right there. If he calls the raise and then bets out on the turn, I would fold at that point.

I think flop call is ok but you should fold OTT.

You are (now) thinking along the right lines. But I think QQ is too weak to call three streets with. Remember, even a hand like 97s is a bluff catcher on the river.

vs fish I am raising 97s for value on turn. He can call or 3bet with lot of worse hands like overpairs, straight draws. And getting in. It sucks to face a 3bet here, but I guess would be too weak to fold then.

Personally, I would have actually raised on the flop and hope to take it down right there. If he calls the raise and then bets out on the turn, I would fold at that point.

that is interesting. You protecth the equity, but is it ok price the question is. I do not remember some coaches doing this.