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OESFD on a 3-bet pot with 67s

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inceptioner
Joined: 23.05.2012

Thoughts? What line would you take OTF? Villain is 38/20/2. I had him marked as a fish so he's probably limped/done other fishy plays.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 286 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 19.66, 3Bet Preflop: 1.82, Hands: 122)
SB: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 68.42, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
BB: 39.5 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
Hero (UTG): 133 BB
CO: 108.5 BB (VPIP: 20.98, PFR: 16.52, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 226)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♠ 7♠

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 5♠ 3♦ 8♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 21.5 BB, BTN raises to 279 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 104.5 BB and is all-in


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

I would simply fold preflop. Don't wanna be playing a small suited connector in a big pot out of position. As played it's fine to go broke on the flop. You have more than 50% vs his overpairs


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inceptioner
Joined: 23.05.2012

Originally posted by MisterSnS
I would simply fold preflop. Don't wanna be playing a small suited connector in a big pot out of position. As played it's fine to go broke on the flop. You have more than 50% vs his overpairs

You'd fold to that sizing?


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Preflop call is meh just because flatting 3bets OOP is meh. It's not bad, though; just meh. Don't mind it.

Obviously we're piling it all in on that flop.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

You can call preflop because you are 133bb deep. Postflop is fine. It depends a little on whether he can get away from overpairs. You'd have a tough decision if he just calls your check-raise and you miss. Another option is to donk big and reraise AI if he raises. This can generate some serious fold equity (again depending on villain).


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

I am never folding vs a fish here even tough we are oop because of the sizing. We have too good odds to call and if we hit something nice we can probably stack the bad player. Also we are 133bb deep so its even better to call like Yohan said.

As played I like to get it in on the flop but you could raise bigger and make yourself more committed to the pot. Make it something like 4x with this hand and then you can raise your sets to 4x as well.


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inceptioner
Joined: 23.05.2012

Originally posted by YohanN7
You'd have a tough decision if he just calls your check-raise and you miss.

This is actually a really good point, especially in NL2. Considering the fact that he's marked as a fish there's a huge possibility that he calls the raise. This is one of the thoughts I had while trying to decide what to do.


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inceptioner
Joined: 23.05.2012

Originally posted by MJPerry
Obviously we're piling it all in on that flop.

That's not the point. I obviously want to get the money in OTF, but I'm just wondering what the best line is.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The best line preflop is to fold. It doesn't matter that the 3 bet is small. We will be OOP, playing a draw in a big pot.
The flop is one of the best you hope for, so getting it in is ok.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

As MJPerry said, calling pre is meh.. Otherwise this looks fine.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by inceptioner

Originally posted by MJPerry
Obviously we're piling it all in on that flop.

That's not the point. I obviously want to get the money in OTF, but I'm just wondering what the best line is.

Well then yeah check-raise is ideal since people cbet in 3bet pots almost always.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

I think its not too bad calling pre against this small 3bet. Posflop was very standard.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Even his bluff range dominates us. We have playability handbut we hope to make a draw, pot will be big...
Not that good...


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

But a small 3bet seems to be a strong hand that villain ll not fold. So, really good implied odds.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

How often you will hit a draw here? If we hit a pair it is weak and can be beat ...
If we were a little more deeper, it will be good.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

133bbs, for me, is deep enough.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I prefer 150BB+.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Originally posted by inceptioner
Thoughts? What line would you take OTF?

Wouldn't open in the first place, even targeting those weak players on your right won't be ev+ with 67s. AP's fine.


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