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[Closed] 4c-9c! Seriously???

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tytyty2121
Joined: 06.12.2008

Man, I had to restrain myself to use such a non-offensive subject!

Please look at the hand below and let me know what you think.

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$11.21:///////;UTG2$14.95:54/15 /9 /0.7/17 /13 /100 /0 ;CO$1.85:76/18 /12 /8.0/33 /20 /-/40 ;BU$7.95:90/23 /6 /1.8/25 /60 /-/40 ;[/tg]
0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♥, Q♥
UTG2 calls $0.10, 3 folds, CO calls $0.10, BU calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, BB folds, UTG2 calls $0.30, CO folds, BU calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.40) 4♠, A♣, 4♦ (3 players)
Hero bets $1.00, UTG2 folds, BU calls $1.00.

Turn: ($3.40) T♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets $3.00, Hero raises to $9.81 (All-In), BU raises to $6.55 (All-In).

River: ($19.76) 8♠ (2 players)

Final Pot: $19.76

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows two pairs, aces and fours (Ah Qh)
BU shows three of a kind, fours (9c 4c)

BU wins with three of a kind, fours (9c 4c)

That hand hurt! Just when a finally got over the $80 profit mark (since I started playing 5440 hands ago)!! I won $60 pretty quickly during my first 2weeks (2000 hands) but since then I only managed to win $20 over 3440 hands. I thought I finally broke loose when I hit a full house on the flop and won an entire buy-in just to lose it a few minutes later to a ****** 4-9!!


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Dykiller
Joined: 20.02.2008

happens


Alexd10
Joined: 07.07.2008

its an unlucky hand i guess, probably would have bet the turn to see where you were at, if he had re-raises prabably a fold. With his stats he is calling anything so 94 is deffinately in his range. Also you flopped to piar not a full house :P

An unlucky hand never the less, but thats poker!

gl at the tables


CoreySteel
Joined: 25.10.2006

It was suited!?%


miskokvo
Joined: 28.03.2008

hmm.... dont kill me but he played it right...

first- he had position
second - suited cards
third - many limpers= incredible good pot odds (pot 1,4$ and he need to call 30c?)
4th- if he hit (as he das) he will probably take yours whole stack..

im not cash game player but with those facts i will probably call with any suited conectors,pairts,Ax suited etc.. maybe 75% of hands...

yes 94s is bulshit hand but dont forget Doyle Brunson T2 ... maybe it is his favorite cards who knows

it is not wsop final table just nl10? so you can expect everything.. belive me


OMG i'm so sorry i didn't realize the thread was moved
so i removed my post sorry boys


excelgeo
Joined: 17.10.2008

Originally posted by miskokvo
hmm.... dont kill me but he played it right...

first- he had position
second - suited cards
third - many limpers= incredible good pot odds (pot 1,4$ and he need to call 30c?)
4th- if he hit (as he das) he will probably take yours whole stack..

im not cash game player but with those facts i will probably call with any suited conectors,pairts,Ax suited etc.. maybe 75% of hands...

yes 94s is bulshit hand but dont forget Doyle Brunson T2 ... maybe it is his favorite cards who knows

it is not wsop final table just nl10? so you can expect everything.. belive me

i have to agree, they would have called even in wsop final table


tytyty2121
Joined: 06.12.2008

Thanks to the Gold members who replied and gave constructive feedback.

I can see your point when you say that he played it right. I also understand that my all-in raise on the turn was over the top and that I should have been more cautious.

Ater his bet on the Turn, I should have realised that I was probably behind and either fold or call and see what the river brought.

I was ready to lose to TT (though unlikely since he tried to only limp in) or even AT but not to 4-9.

Just another lesson on my way to poker riches. :)


1. raise more pf, like 0.70 (that will also help not getting called from 94..)

2. BU looks pretty solid, don't see a reason to go broke with top pair.

as played, i would bet turn, no more than 2.50. either you are ahead of a smaller ace, in which case you you don't want a huge pot. or you are way behind AT, 4x, and thus fold to a shove.


tytyty2121
Joined: 06.12.2008

And the same thing just happened again...:(

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$14.83:///////;UTG1$10.84:21/43 /29 /0.6/57 /100 /-/75 ;MP1$0.96:127/18 /9 /11.0/36 /14 /100 /13 ;[/tg]
0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♠, Q♣
UTG folds, UTG1 calls $0.10, UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, UTG1 calls $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.25) 9♦, J♣, 8♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG1 checks, MP1 bets $0.56 (All-In), Hero raises to $1.20, UTG1 calls $1.20.

Turn: ($4.21) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG1 bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00.

River: ($10.21) 4♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $3.00, UTG1 calls $3.00.

Final Pot: $16.21

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows three of a kind, queens (Qs Qc)
MP1 shows a pair of nines (Kh 9h)
UTG1 shows a straight, queen high (Tc 3c)

UTG1 wins with a straight, queen high (Tc 3c)


Originally posted by tytyty2121
And the same thing just happened again...:(

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$14.83:///////;UTG1$10.84:21/43 /29 /0.6/57 /100 /-/75 ;MP1$0.96:127/18 /9 /11.0/36 /14 /100 /13 ;[/tg]
0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♠, Q♣
UTG folds, UTG1 calls $0.10, UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, UTG1 calls $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.25) 9♦, J♣, 8♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG1 checks, MP1 bets $0.56 (All-In), Hero raises to $1.20, UTG1 calls $1.20.

Turn: ($4.21) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG1 bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00.

River: ($10.21) 4♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $3.00, UTG1 calls $3.00.

Final Pot: $16.21

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows three of a kind, queens (Qs Qc)
MP1 shows a pair of nines (Kh 9h)
UTG1 shows a straight, queen high (Tc 3c)

UTG1 wins with a straight, queen high (Tc 3c)

You need to raise more preflop. Preferably 4BB+limpers = $0.60 at the very least, if you want to protect your queens.

As played, you have an overpair plus a gutshot on the flop (and for anyone with an OESD with a ten, you have two of his outs blocked), so raise MP1's all-in more aggresively to isolate him. $1.20 is definitely not enough.


conall88
Joined: 02.01.2009

$2.25 should be sufficient imho. draw heavy flop and all..