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AQ - 3 way hitting TPTK - getting raised

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schelleXL
Joined: 05.05.2011

Hello,

always find it hard to believe guys who make this play on this type of flop : why would he raise here ? Not a dangerous flop : rainbow and only gutshots. Why raise nuts here ? we have shown interest in the pot and it's building nicely : 3.65 $ on turn if he calls : another 2 $ bet on turn gives him easy shove on river. = 6.8 $ left and pot would be 9.65 (if we both called).

MP+1: $10.62 (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 10.89, 3Bet Preflop: 4.52, Hands: 612)
CO: $6.32 (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $19.08 (VPIP: 16.35, PFR: 11.80, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 378)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 20.72, PFR: 13.96, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 222)
UTG: $11.56 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 12.73, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
UTG+1: $9.85 (VPIP: 11.50, PFR: 9.00, 3Bet Preflop: 1.23, Hands: 203)
MP: $9.90 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q♠ A♠

fold, fold, MP calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25, 3 players) 9♣ 7♦ A♥
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80, MP raises to $2.40, fold, fold

Spoiler

MP wins $3.49


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Generally, nuts are raised to win some money, preferably all of it. It is easier to do so by raising than calling. Besides, why only gutshots?


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schelleXL
Joined: 05.05.2011

Yeah I know that :-)

but we are building the pot for him and no draws out there besides gutshots.

Only straightdraw now is T8 : limp call préflop in MP ?
normally not.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Limp/call pre, check/raise flop = villain has a set. Good fold.

Usually people raise nuts for value, especially at multiway pots.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yes, even in HU it is very suspicious, but when done in a mw pot- FOLD.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008
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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

From villains pov, if they passive play here and flat your flop bet they have to risk a check behind OTT then a fold to their resulting river donk. There is also the possibility of both action killing and even backdoor suckout runouts from the cheap flop and free turn card.

To be honest the best line for the villain here is to donk the flop. It shows less scary strength then x-r and will get 3 streets of value more often. Overpairs will also tend to raise donks OTF and commit themselves broke.


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srna10
Joined: 17.12.2010

Medium strength hand, multiway pot and x/r from villain, fold and move on.


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