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Two pair x raise river

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Polezi
Joined: 13.08.2009

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $6.72 (67.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $16.99 (169.9 bb)
UTG: $14.56 (145.6 bb) VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 15, AF: 1,5, Hands: 37
MP: $16.60 (166 bb)
CO: $11.31 (113.1 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) A 9 Q (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, MP folds, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($1.95) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, UTG raises to $3, Hero folds

I call PFR because I don't have so many hands from EP, MP is unknown. Flop check/ call is standard, turn too, river I think I can have value but he raise big, what can he have? AK, set?


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011

Flop check/ call is standard

Why is this line standard ?


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I would think villain here is repping something. I might find a fold here.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I would make a squeeze here. Even unknown MP will have weaker handsin his calling range.
We can raise on flop.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Villain's play doesn't add up to anything sensible, sure, the occasional rivered set, stupidly played QQ, etc, but overall this is suspect. Taken together with okay odds, I am calling.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would squeeze pre. As played villains line doesn't make sense so it could be a bluff. Call and take a note.


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I would have 3bet pre flop. The way he played it, doesn't really make sense to me. Feels like a bluff on the river. I would call.


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StruxXx
Joined: 18.12.2015

Your play on the flop has no sense at all - Why would you slowplay top two on that flop? He's probably going to call your flop raise at least one street with any AJ (or even A10) at least once, as well as with J10. With that being said its pure value raise on this highly juicy board.

Sets - 1 combo of QQ + 1 combo of AA - I highly doubt that villains got it + 3 combos of KK which he IS NEVER going to check after that miracle turn (he still has a decent equity for the river even if you completed your draws) and besides that I think he's rarely going to bet it on the flop (depends on the player ofc). So logically there is only possible set of 99 which I think he would bet on that turn card no matter what.

Other possibilities that he might have - J10 and it could be the most likely hand that he's having here that actually beats you and its worth of value raising on the river.

Overplaying KQ and A9 is a possibility as well (same goes for AQ) - but this is so weird that Im never ever folding here - nor would I play the flop like you did :)


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Polezi
Joined: 13.08.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
I would make a squeeze here. Even unknown MP will have weaker handsin his calling range.
We can raise on flop.

In another topic I 3bet with AK on bb x EP OR (unknown), everybody said to me that is better just flat, in this spot I had AQ, don't be the same? MP in the middle change a lot?


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011

Originally posted by Polezi

Originally posted by nitrol
I would make a squeeze here. Even unknown MP will have weaker handsin his calling range.
We can raise on flop.

In another topic I 3bet with AK on bb x EP OR (unknown), everybody said to me that is better just flat, in this spot I had AQ, don't be the same? MP in the middle change a lot?

When you had your AK hand you didnt had the posibility to squeeze this is a different story.

How i play this hand ? Call preflop like you but on that flop i raise for sure. As played i will call river in this spot.


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AlvisR
Joined: 27.02.2009

Listen to nitrol and you will be good 90% of times :)


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Polezi
Joined: 13.08.2009

Originally posted by AlvisR
Listen to nitrol and you will be good 90% of times :)

no doubt, I just wanted to know the difference of having AK x EP and AQ x EP and a call, if I do not know the EP in the same way


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AlvisR
Joined: 27.02.2009

Well. You should always drop a question - Why? So people explain instead of just giving plain correct line :)
Ak oop vs ep open can be call or 3b. Both are correct plays. If we dig deeper vs loose opener ak is a 3b and vs tight opener its s call. If we dig more deep we start to think about ops postflop tendencies and then we analyze wether to 3bet or call preflop. By this being said: vs different player style we must use Different actions with the same card combinations.

Aq hand just plays better if you squeeze here because of fold equity. You have position and if ep folds you are almost always guaranteed to have 7.5bb winrate on this exact hand here because mp is having mediocre hand and will fold to your squeeze unless he slowplays. Bear in mind if ep is opening tight then you cant think about fold equity. As he opens hands which dominates you. But in this case he has to be really tight. And if ep is loose you prevent him to see flop with weaker holdings or setmining. Weaker holding theory applies to mp caller in here.

Thats why poker is unique game where you can do whatever you like. :)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Polezi

Originally posted by nitrol
I would make a squeeze here. Even unknown MP will have weaker handsin his calling range.
We can raise on flop.

In another topic I 3bet with AK on bb x EP OR (unknown), everybody said to me that is better just flat, in this spot I had AQ, don't be the same? MP in the middle change a lot?

It is a totally different story. Here you have an open+call. MP's calling range is not that strong. With a squeeze you want:
a) both players to fold
b) utg to fold and mp to call
And we will have initiative postflop.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by AlvisR
Listen to nitrol and you will be good 90% of times :)
Lol... :)


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