KJo turn bluff in 3-way pot.

I like betting turn and I'd make it a bit bigger because I want to be able to barrel some rivers. Betting 1/3 on the river if draws miss doesn't seem like a good plan because you beat most of the missed draws anyway - there are too many pairs in the turn calling range to justify betting to fold out A high FDs only (some of these also bet turn).

There won't be that much 9x in the reg's range, otherwise he would have bet with Qx-s against the fish in most of the time. So I assume he will fold quite often. As for the fish his range is very broad, so he will also fold a lot, and he can even call you with worse hands. So the size of your bet is good, and if only the reg called, i would bet the river as well. Against the fish i would simply xb the river

I like the bet on turn when flop was checked down.
We are IP and we do not have to bet on river of we miss.

after turn bet and in case we get called we have to proceed on the river most of the times? i would rather stab river maybe

Originally posted by Tinsley15
after turn bet and in case we get called we have to proceed on the river most of the times? i would rather stab river maybe

We cant really represent any hands with c/c/b line on this board.

He means x/b/b.
I am not sure we should bet river too.

i like just checking behind here.. its more safe approach there is not that much in the pot anyways and we can still hit on the river.

I like the turn stab. Most of the times we should bet river too in my opinion. Villain might have those draws but he could also call one street with small pocket pairs. Bet small OTR to fold out those pockets and missed A-high FDs.

The river bet depends on what card will fall .

Yes, flush cards are not the best ones.

And the pot is still mw. We cannot wave guns on all streets.

Results:

Thanks all. It is hard to discuss river play as it depends a lot on what card comes and who calls. This time they both folded to my turn bet.

I agree. Bet BIG if you want folds. Stabbing the turn is quite mandatory here, but you have to barrel many rivers too because I don't expect these guys to fold Gutshots/any pair/flushdraws with pairs on the flop. And KJ seems like a good hand to do that.

I disagree with the statement that we are good vs most draws if they bust. Flushdraws can still bust, but pick up a weak pair on the river for instance, or already have a pair on the flop, or are simply Ahigh

Originally posted by MisterSnS
I disagree with the statement that we are good vs most draws if they bust. Flushdraws can still bust, but pick up a weak pair on the river for instance, or already have a pair on the flop, or are simply Ahigh

Betting 1/3rd won't fold out these FDs with small pairs though. I meant we're beating most of the FDs that will fold to our 1/3rd bet and that's why I don't like the idea, I have nothing against barreling big on the river.

Barreling big after the flop checks is inconsistent story...

How do you play Qx if that seems inconsistent? It's practically the nuts on a blank river so I'm going for big sizings with my polarized range.

What is big? We bet 1/2 OTT, 1/2 should be ok OTR too.
Betting 1/2 first and then increasing our bet size a lot looks more bluffy imo and we are repping only AQ,QQ.

I think that a bet in the range of 1/3-1/2 is ok. Agree that it looks bluffy.

Since you raised pre flop, then checked the flop, a bet on the turn doesn't tell a convincing story. Honestly, I would have just folded this hand pre flop.