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SH 97s, Turn Flush

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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $10.55 (105.5 bb)
MP: $16.23 (162.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $12.44 (124.4 bb)
BTN: $24.01 (240.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 9
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.55) 3 Q 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.15) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.75) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $8.17, Hero??

Preflop: My standard CO open.

Flop: Hit FD, so decided to call BB's donk. He plays 19/14 in 71 hands.

Turn: Hit the flush and when he checks, I decided to bet. Didn't want to make it big because I think he usually has something like a pair (not necessary TP) considering his flop play, but then he raises. Now I believe he could have better flushes, but I think I can't fold. Also, I think that 3betting would be an overplay. Maybe not?

River: Even sets (if any) became fullhouses now, so I think I should make a tough fold.


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immot
Joined: 11.05.2007

As a villain I'd play flushes (which are usually bigger than your 9high) and sets the same way. Sad to fold it to this fishy overbet on river but sadly you are beat too often (unless you have information that villain is huge spewtard).


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

I prefer push ott. Call seems worst to me - he doesn't have pure bluffs. Villain has either better flush (or 1-2 combos weaker flush) or hand with good equity.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

If not stacking off on turn, I would fold this river. Overbet on paired board and we do not have the nut flush...fold.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Stack off turn is one option.
As played I think we have to fold river. Villain has full houses and better flushes.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Though the raise OTT when flush completed can be higher flush most of the time...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yes that is true. It might be higher flush quite often.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Sets will not start raising when the flush complete...
I think we are mostly vs flushes. And there are quite a lot higher ones...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

So then it is a call and fold river to a megabet? Or just just fold OTT because villain doesn't have worse hands often?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Call and fold to megabet.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

It may be a fold ott already...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think we can call.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Folding turn is not bad either. It is just a bit difficult with a flush.


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srna10
Joined: 17.12.2010

I agree with others, 3bet/stack off OTT.
As played I would fold river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i
I think we can call.

We can call if you expect him to raise with funky staff.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i
Folding turn is not bad either. It is just a bit difficult with a flush.

I think turn is the decision point.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

And I do not like the size of the turn bet. Should be bigger.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by la55i
Folding turn is not bad either. It is just a bit difficult with a flush.

I think turn is the decision point.

Yes it is. But the decision is not easy.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think betting turn somewhere around 0.85$ would be better.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
And I do not like the size of the turn bet. Should be bigger.

What's the reason? Do you think he has alot of flushdraws there or we can get more value vs worse hands?


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