Q3s BB defence vs BU open

Nasty river spot. I wouldn’t be betting the river, because I don’t see much value either and he will not fold better hands. So I would most likely check/call and then he could bluff more than now most likely.

A missed draw changing in to a bluff isn’t to profitable for him I think when you bet the river.
I think with this line you can’t beat anything anymore and was a fold most likely better against a unknown.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I agree with you, thanks for the info.

wp, gotta call

River is bet-fold or check-call. I prefer check-call because even pocket pairs (TT-) that we target should think three times before calling a bet.

Bet call is best. You bet to get value since it's likely you have best hand and getting such great odds our opponent will call with any pair, maybe ace high. You call on the river because now you are getting great odds so you hope just for the bluff.

It would help to know the stakes. There is something strange going on because if he has top pair or better on the turn he should surely raise to charge the two flush draws, and some straight draws. His line is kind of logical with JJ and QJ, and against a standard loose passive we are beat when villain raises the river. I agree in principle with Yohan that this is check call or bet fold. I am inclined to check call and let him bluff his missed draws. He will likely also check back his queens which will also beat us. Those are my initial thoughts anyway. Tough one.

limit is 0.1/0.2, I think after what I heard it should have been a x/c.
He probably blufs very little in this spot, however there is a lot of FPS on the lowest stakes so it is not unthinkable...

Why didn't you bet the flop, you think that he has a FD so I guess you should bet and not give him a free card.

Concering the move on river -> I agree with the posts above -> c/c river

I x/r the flop for value. You think I should have donked here? and if he raises, d/3b or d/c?

Check-raise is fine. This is about the weakest hand you can check-raise with on this board (for value).

If you are reraised, just call down. Consider also folding if the runout is horrible, like K♥:J♠: or any :heart::heart:

In SH c/r may be ok but isn't it a better option to just b/c?

I think it is not bad to take initiative here, you don't want to give a free card so why not just bet?

Most villains will cbet ~100% so c/r has greater value than donking because you will donk into his value range. If he 3b you can slowdown and reconsider on the Turn.

Also if you d/c then you will not have initiative because villain is the most recent raiser.

Yes, its because you fully expect villain to c-bet as people normally do, particularly on this type of flop. Also by checking you are giving away no information, because you will do it with every hand you have. If he has a read that you donk your made hands and check when you have nothing, you become easier to play against and he can even fold some weak hands straight away without putting in any chips at all post flop.

I agree, but one should be aware that good opponents don't c-bet even nearly 100%. The check-raise as standard is exploiting people c-betting too much - hence exploitable, but don't worry about that at the micros. They fire flop enough if they open-raise to begin with. (That strategy, by the way, is exploitation of the tendency of players folding too much to c-bets. It doesn't work as well as 10 years ago because people now check-raise a lot more:D The FL articles are hopelessly outdated...)

Yes for sure, and its doubtless possible to form a balanced donking strategy that includes weak top pair but at these stakes we can assume villains are playing very straightforward unless they give us reason to believe otherwise.

Ok this could be different of SH, I play FR and you would be amazed how many times villians do not bet.....

Its a totally different situation if the hand is not head's up post flop. The cbet frequency will be a lot lower if there are more players left in the pot. It should also depend a lot on the flop texture, and the preflop action. 100% is an exaggeration but on this sort of flop I would expect a cbet most of the time at these stakes. It is important to adjust to the population tendencies of your game, though.