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[Closed] 22$ donkey king AKs

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viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

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iPoker Game 2069128554 / Tournament
Table Cambridge - 2009-02-20 21:49:25
Blinds : 100/200
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4 players
[1] uplaywell (3070)
[But] hanswarst (3590)
[SB] STANdudicete (4875)
[BB] michopok11 (3465)

hero A♦ K♦ Initial Pot: 300

uplaywell folds
hero raises to 500
STANdudicete folds
michopok11 is All in
hero calls 2965

Fold after resteal I guess? AKs looked too pretty, but this is-$EV right?


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Nahsh
Joined: 08.09.2007

i would go down as well. AKs with less than 20BB, hell yeah.


LuborC
Joined: 20.04.2008

I guess someone with SNG wiz should analyse it more thoroughly but I think it's a call. I might fold if the bigstack pushed but here you're ITM and massive chipleader if you win and you're the shortstack if you fold. You'll probably have a flip most moften but I can see him doing this with worse aces, too. As well as monsters of course. You all are pretty deep which makes this a pretty close decision for me but I think you should still call.


I did a little calculation:

if you fold your equity: 22.2%, if you call and win it is 37.8%. So 22.2=37.8%*x. You have got to have at least 58.2% chance to win for the call to be profitable. Against smaller pairs you have 45%, against a weaker ace you have like 72%, against trash you have 65%, against KK you have 31% against AA you have 8%.
So you should calculate what chances these things have... hehe, so much calculation, and I still don''t know if it's worth a call...


You will be flipping with a pair most often here IMO.

Maybe AK, AQ, and MAYBE weaker ace if its a low limit SNG.

I like it because win = nice healthy stack ITM.

Lose = it was worth a shot with such a strong hand....

I am no expert on the equity math yet, so thats my practical take on it.


Originally posted by LuborC
I guess someone with SNG wiz should analyse it more thoroughly but I think it's a call. I might fold if the bigstack pushed but here you're ITM and massive chipleader if you win and you're the shortstack if you fold. You'll probably have a flip most moften but I can see him doing this with worse aces, too. As well as monsters of course. You all are pretty deep which makes this a pretty close decision for me but I think you should still call.

oops.. wrote pretty much the same thing.... Should have just agreed here.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Originally posted by mofire87
I did a little calculation:

if you fold your equity: 22.2%, if you call and win it is 37.8%. So 22.2=37.8%*x. You have got to have at least 58.2% chance to win for the call to be profitable. Against smaller pairs you have 45%, against a weaker ace you have like 72%, against trash you have 65%, against KK you have 31% against AA you have 8%.
So you should calculate what chances these things have... hehe, so much calculation, and I still don''t know if it's worth a call...

We should just base our decisions on this and Pokerstove. SNGWizard is not much use because we are raising. Basically if opponent pushes wider than this we can call. Otherwise a fold is best.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

732,866,112 games 0.005 secs 146,573,222,400 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.536% 54.80% 04.74% 386582996 33426656.00 { AKs }
Hand 1: 40.464% 35.73% 04.74% 252032940 33426656.00 { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

I think unknowns won't push wider here on the bubble so I would fold to unknowns and call against regulars.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

All regulars on titan resteal tight imo, since most regulars don't understand to fold hands like AK, AJs, ... in spots like these (I called aswell, see where I'm going? :tongue:).
I love restealing loose against the good regulars, but that's like 4-5 players ^^