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QQ vs fishes

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mistralx
Joined: 13.08.2014

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 133 BB (VPIP: 23.47, PFR: 22.45, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 100)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 59)
UTG: 207.5 BB (VPIP: 53.85, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 39)
MP: 73 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 104 BB (VPIP: 30.65, PFR: 25.81, 3Bet Preflop: 9.30, Hands: 128)
Hero (BTN): 108.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♥

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13.5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 10.5 BB, MP calls 10.5 BB

Flop: (42 BB, 3 players) 2♠ 7♥ T♥
UTG bets 19 BB, MP calls 19 BB, Hero raises to 95 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 76 BB, MP calls 40.5 BB and is all-in

Turn: (291.5 BB, 3 players) 6♠

River: (291.5 BB, 3 players) 5♣

What do you think about shoving OTF against these fishes?
I think it should be EV+. I don't like 3-way AI, but MP shouldn't call to often.
I guess, they both might have many FD, OESD, Tx and just a few sets.


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

Excellent.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I agree with the raise OTF, but I´m not sure about shoving. The issue is, how often will they call? And if they do call, how often are we ahead? I know they are fish, but still...

PS: Fish is plural form already :) (no offense)


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Looks fine. Both are probably fish and UTG looks a bit like maniac, so I like maximising value vs them OTF. Vs some other opponents, I might just call.


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mistralx
Joined: 13.08.2014

Originally posted by Mozzek
I agree with the raise OTF, but I´m not sure about shoving. The issue is, how often will they call? And if they do call, how often are we ahead? I know they are fish, but still...

PS: Fish is plural form already :) (no offense)

I guess I am still a little bit fishy in English :f_biggrin:

But if it's about your post - okay, you agree with the raise OTF but what another sizing can we choose? The only raising possibility is to shove.
Look, if I choose the sizing of 60bbs, and get called (by one player) now the pot is 181bbs and I have 35 bbs left. I am so commited that I have to call every Turn - it doesn't make sense to make a non-shove raise.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

This looks fine.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Good exploitative move.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like it as played. Pot is already big enough and we can push.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Ok, you saying, that shove is cool, but what can we expect to call us? Maybe I just overestimate villains, can they call there with flush draw/top pair?


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

I guess it is most of the time correct play in MWP 3b Pot vs fishy opponents


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kazkas777
Joined: 02.10.2010

Well played.


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

vs 2 fish overpair is nuts :nh:


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