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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $11.54 (115.4 bb)
BB: $35.13 (351.3 bb)
UTG: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $11.87 (118.7 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.30 (103 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♣: A♠:
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.20, CO folds, BTN calls $0.20, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, BTN calls $1

Flop: ($2.70) 9♦: 8♦: K♦: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.70) Q♥: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.29, BTN calls $1.29

River: ($5.28) 8♥: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.80, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$5.28 pot ($0.24 rake)
Final Board: 9♦: 8♦: K♦: Q♥: 8♥:
Hero mucked A♣: A♠: and lost (-$2.49 net)
BTN mucked and won $5.04 ($2.55 net)

How should I play this?
Pre standard squeeze.
OTF I check because it looks scary :f_o: and I could check some nut flushes here too.
OTT decided to bet for value and to protect from single diamond hands and he just calls.
OTR I think he could be slowplaying something and I don't feel comfortable betting anymore and then he bets...

Any KK, QQ, KQ, flush, 8x and JT beats me. I think I can't call here but should I choose a different line?


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

bet flop, bet turn, bet river. As played you have the easiest call otr.


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plopfessional
Joined: 21.09.2016

I dislike the flop check but It can be okay. Against an Aggressive opponent you would have to call because he can do it with a lot of Adx. I like the value bet OTT but I would go for a bigger size (around 2/3 pot). You want to extract value from all the fds and Kx, maybe Qx.
Check otr seems okay, it is easy for him to bluff here. Your fold is beyond me. You said KK, QQ, KQ is beating you. You are beating KQ and he should never have KK,QQ here, ever. JT should be only JTs. Also all non nut flushes should be the flop. I would expect 99,98s to bet the flop. The small bet OTR and many missed chances for aggression make me think he is not particullary strong. You need to be right only 26% of the time. If he gets here with KQ it is a trivial call.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea I actually might have played this one bad.. I'm still not sure about bet bet bet line though. Guys at my limit can often slowplay strong hands and this guy seems to be more on the passive side.
He calls my turn bet and then bets river about 1/2, it doesn't look like a bluff and I'm not sure if he will bet some Qx on this board. Since he called the minraise and called my squeeze he shouldn't have QQ or KK if he is not a fish but he could have some low flushes, sets and random 8x still.


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piR
piR
Joined: 31.08.2008

I would had prefer a line like :
OTF : b/f
OTT: b/f
OTR : x/f

As played I suppose fold river is OK imo.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

The flop check is hard to balance (takes discipline). You don't have that many nut flushes to check, and checking a set is just bad play (I know some would not agree on the last point). But the flop check is not bad. Neither is betting flop.

Now the opponent checks behind. Against a good opponent, this means nothing at all. He'll realize you have doubts, and will simply keep you in doubts by checking (with everything except a mini-flush).

If you bet turn, bet bigger. This bet is small enough to keep him in the pot with virtually anything, and if he is the good player of above, he doesn't care too much about his cards because he intends to steal the pot once he calls.

I'd call this bet because I'd be capped and a blank fell off and the pot offers good odds and also because he can mistakenly be value betting AQ.


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Easy call river, actually probably a value bet might get called from AdQx. The 8 is probably the best river card for your hand except the A♥: ofcourse. Actually the best card for your overall range also.
Did you plan to x/c the flop?


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plopfessional
Joined: 21.09.2016

@la55i
I forgot 8x, but there are not to many. 0 Combos A8s, 2x 87s and maybe 2x 89s(?). dont think he would bet Qx otr. But he needs so few worse hands that you should have an easy call here.
Also, I agree bet, bet, bet is not good. You should miss at least one bet imo.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

If villain had bet the flop, I would have called.
I think bet bet xf would have been a decent line. And as played I should have bet turn bigger and called river.


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

You're repping weak hand.

Villain can have bluffs. Villain can even have weaker valuebets, even if we block AK/AQ. He should not have many FH's as played. Maybe some slowplayed flushes or 8's that hit, but I think folding river is a big mistake with one of the best river we can hope (if he really isn't the most passive guy of nl10).


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plopfessional
Joined: 21.09.2016

Originally posted by la55i
If villain had bet the flop, I would have called.
I think bet bet xf would have been a decent line. And as played I should have bet turn bigger and called river.

I totally agree. However, I always think I'm getting exploited by fish on that river. They call turn with Just the Ad and then you show weakness and they just bet, because lol and they block the nuts. I'm starting to feel your agony with this situation oop.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I would bet OTF. As played I´m calling the river.


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