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msnek
msnek
Joined: 01.10.2008
Posts: 296
10.10.2016, 23:45

No reads. Am I missing thin value OTR or not (like from QQ, TT, 99 for example) ? Otherwise played well ?

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2968555
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BTN: $12.42
SB: $26.88
BB: $12.62
Hero (UTG): $12.24
MP: $10.43
CO: $10.54

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with J♥ J♦
Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 2♦ 3♥ K♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.65) 8♦ (2 players)
BB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($1.45) 7♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks


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Tyrion88
Tyrion88
Joined: 21.06.2007
Posts: 182
11.10.2016, 07:38

You don't miss value from QQ. :f_grin:
So the only imaginable combos I see calling is 99, TT that we have beat (12 combos). Even 89s should not call. Maybe A8s (3) coul also call if it calls preflop.
On the other hand he should bet AK, KQ, 78s OTR.
So calling range that beats us could be QQ (6) and KJs (2).

Well. Tricky hand. I first didn't think we should bet. But now. :f_smile: I think a bet OTR would have been fine.


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la55i
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Joined: 27.01.2013
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11.10.2016, 08:10

I have noticed that on this kind of flops villains fold quite much, so I might just bet the flop here. I guess checking is still fine too.
I don't think you miss much value because 1. villain might not have any kind of hand that would call OTR and 2. he still might have some small Kx in his range?


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Mozzek
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Joined: 16.07.2016
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11.10.2016, 19:13

I would bet OTF, then check it down.


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oI2ange
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Joined: 21.07.2015
Posts: 189
14.10.2016, 02:22

Fine on all streets. The lower the pair, the more often I would c-bet the flop (so something like 99 should be a flop bet but you can probably check QQ/JJ).


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scopinad
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Joined: 13.06.2015
Posts: 285
14.10.2016, 06:18

A bet on the river could depend on reads, if villain nit than it would be a bluff, if villain looser, then yeah for value.
I like it as played.


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piR
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Joined: 31.08.2008
Posts: 122
14.10.2016, 10:18

My line would be : definitively Cbet OTF on 23K > call turn > give up river when flush draw hit.


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nsavov
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Joined: 24.09.2010
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14.10.2016, 10:30

Its close. I would have checked this but bet 2♥:3♥:K♦:


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msnek
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15.10.2016, 18:53

Originally posted by nsavov
Its close. I would have checked this but bet 2♥:3♥:K♦:

Why is it close ? Whay you would bet this different flop u have mentioned ?


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la55i
la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013
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15.10.2016, 19:19

On that board villain would have 2 or 3 more K high flush draws, now he doesn't have those. That is the only difference I see. However I would still like to cbet this board :)


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