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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

I started thinking maybe I need to try some food supplements. I am not sure, I usually try to avoid chemical things, because I heard some say that even simple vitamins do damage because besides vitamins there is other chemicals in the tablet.

There is thing like "Neurozan" well advertized.

https://www.vitabiotics.com/Neurozan/Original

The descriptions sounds good, but I have no idea about those chemical things. I know that vitamins and minerals are good, but there is other things:

- L-Arginine

- Phosphatidylserine

- 5-HTP

- Ginkgo Biloba

- Co-Q10

and I have no idea are they good or maybe they might do even damage. Or maybe they might work, but my brain get "addicted" to them and then when I stop using them, my brain will work even worse.

Maybe you can suggest something?


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Visit a doctor and take tests to determine what you're deficient in. Taking supplements on your own carries a risk of overdose of a nutrient that you're getting in sufficient amount from your diet.


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

I just say: HANDS OFF!

You get everything you need by a healthy diet! Food supplements increase the risk of getting cancer.

If you want to do something good for your brain then increase your intake of Omega-3-fatty acids which you find in fatty fish, nuts, coconut, raw milk (organic), organic olive oil, coconut oil and good organic meat.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Food supplements increase the risk of getting cancer.

oh wow. Are you really sure?

But those moller products for omega - 3 does not look like increase risk of cancer

http://www.mollersomega3.com/p-21-12-product.aspx#/product_21

or does it increase?


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metalmonkey80
Joined: 15.08.2013

Hello SPeedFANat1c,

It is a very complicated world when looking at food supplements. I have been researching this for the last few years now. First I would like to say that we must be careful when throwing out the 'Cancer' association to supplements! There is not enough concrete evidence in many areas on this.
You can never touch food supplements in your life, lead a healthy life style in every way and still get caner just because you live in a ley line area . We can get cancer purely from genetics in family history. 40 - 60% of all cancers are related to diet!

Think of the body as a language. For a language to be complete it needs libraries of books which are made up of sentences, which are made up of words, which are made up from letters. The letters represent the fundamental building blocks, without which language cannot be built. Vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids, amino acids, fats, sugars, water and air are those building blocks. The requirement for these different building blocks is remarkably constant throughout the animal kingdom because essentially we share a similar language. Different disease states may result in different deficiencies, but everybody needs the basic building blocks in order to achieve optimum health. The major dietary factors identified so far are:
fats;
fibre;
carbohydrates-as promoters of cancer;
antioxidant nutrients-as inhibitors and retarders of cancer.

The descriptions sounds good, but I have no idea about those chemical things. I know that vitamins and minerals are good, but there is other things:

- L-Arginine ( is an α-amino acid that is used in the biosynthesis of proteins)

- Phosphatidylserine (Phosphatidylserine is a phospholipid and is a component of the cell membrane. It plays a key role in cell cycle signaling, specifically in relationship to apoptosis.)

- 5-HTP ( tryptophan and 5-HTP are very effective in the treatment of depression.)

- Ginkgo Biloba (An extract of Ginkgo biloba leaf (GBE) is marketed in dietary supplement form with claims it can enhance cognitive function in people without known cognitive problems. Studies have failed to find such effects on memory or attention in healthy people)

- Co-Q10 (Co-enzyme Q 10 is a co-factor on which depend some vitally important mitochondrial enzymes involved in the production of both ATP (adenine nucleotide translocases) and therefore also energy)

They all can help you, But first you must look at you diet and lifestyle before moving on with adding food supplements to your diet. Please note you must get these supplements from trusted shops. Be warned of imitations found on the internet.

I hope this is some help to you and if have any more questions don't hesitate to ask.

Regards

Matt


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Mobcasinos
Joined: 24.05.2016

You don't need to take a food supplement. Just eats healthy food like vegetables and fruits. Another think you just need to rest enough you might be tire playing poker and also Play Moderately to avoid getting sick.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

carbohydrates-as promoters of cancer;

I reduced sugar usage significantly so I hope I reduce the chance of cancer. But almost all my surroundings, even mother, father tell me - use more sugar, cause I am skinny and reducing sugar makes me even more skinny

but yea, still I use many carbohydrates and I do not know what to replace them with so that it would be delicious, that I could eat 5 mornings a week and not feel like I hate it. I eat pasta each morning during workdays - its tasty and its fast to cook, this is important in mornings that its fast. And I can eat 5 days pasta without starting to hate them.

Also talked with one guy who uses Neurozan from time to time. And he says it really helps. He kind of feels that he gets less annoyed by colleagues then.

But I am not sure if the food supplements are the long term solution for being less annoyed by colleagues. Maybe it solves the consequence but not the cause. What if colleagues are the cause for him being annoyed and not him :)

So yea, I had looked into my diet, but its just too hard to eat by all rules. And plus I will not gain those materials from normal food which are in neurozan for example.


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metalmonkey80
Joined: 15.08.2013

but yea, still I use many carbohydrates and I do not know what to replace them with so that it would be delicious, that I could eat 5 mornings a week and not feel like I hate it.

That is the biggest problem when defining a diet that suits your needs. This is a problem I have been faced with.
In the next week I am starting to swap to a Paleo Diet, also known as the stone age diet.


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

In the next week I am starting to swap to a Paleo Diet, also known as the stone age diet.

Oh my gosh! I was for about 6 month on Paleo diet and I got horrible joint and muscle pain, horrifying panic attacks, restlessness, as well as unbearable headache and abdomial pain (as a woman :sifflote:). Paleo was absolutely nothing for me, I su... at sports, had no energy, was exhausted all the time. Low carb is not good for everbody. For me it was not for sure! Maybe it works for you? Try it ou

As for cancer and supplements: There was a long-term study about those supplements. The results were that 1) they don´t help at all and 2) people who took them regularly and for a long time were more likely to develop cancer.


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xLugia
Joined: 14.12.2014

Nootropics can help: noopept and citicoline


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

they don´t help at all

I do not believe that all do not help at all. As I said in previous post - the colleague really felt that neurozan helped.

Also I remember when I used vitamins for eyes, I also felt that my eyes hurt and were tired not as quick, and it was not hard to see small letters like before using vitamins. I mean I was even thinking about buying 30 inch monitor so I could make all fonts bigger and still have many area on screen. But after using vitamins I did not need that.

Also the problem was that I had too little light, so because of this my eye got tired faster I guess.

And also my friend said that its scientifically proven that vitamins help yea, probably everything is scientifically proved - that they do not help and that they help


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

the colleague really felt that neurozan helped.

Aw, I don´t like to be the kill-joy here but have you ever heard of the placebo effect? Anyways, the most important thing is that the particular person is okay with it and feels good.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Originally posted by Primrose6789

the colleague really felt that neurozan helped.]/quote]

Aw, I don´t like to be the kill-joy here but have you ever heard of the placebo effect? Anyways, the most important thing is that the particular person is okay with it and feels good.

Yea, I have heard it. But when it happens, you are not sure if it is placebo or the real help. But he sounded like it really helps.


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cardinhand
Joined: 16.12.2015

steps if your willing to try it :f_grin:
1,-Ask a doctor if its safe.
2,-take it for a week
3,-checkfor results
4,-continue if it works/stop if its a waste of money


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metalmonkey80
Joined: 15.08.2013

Something else that you can do with no side effects is up your intake of salmon. Fish is a really good brain food. I have a really good and easy to make recipe if you are interested. What is your diet like at the moment?
Regards


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metalmonkey80
Joined: 15.08.2013

Hi SPeedFANat1c,

Just published my blog on performance food. Hopefully there is some information & recipes that can help you with boosting brain performance rather than taking supplements. :f_thumbsup:

FISH & CHIPS -Food for poker performance


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gn4444
Joined: 18.03.2010

great, thank you


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

Originally posted by metalmonkey80
Hi SPeedFANat1c,

Just published my blog on performance food. Hopefully there is some information & recipes that can help you with boosting brain performance rather than taking supplements. :f_thumbsup:

FISH & CHIPS -Food for poker performance

Very cool! :f_thumbsup:

I can recommend you the paleo fake bread, made of eggs, ground almonds, herbs, coconut oil, a little bit of salt and baking powder. Altough I quit paleo I still love some of those recipes like fake cakes and fake bread. A very good alternative when you have celiac disease like me.


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lukaskan
Joined: 20.11.2016

my advice is to just drink alot of water, eat fish twice a week, lower your intake of sugars, dont drink cola or anything like it and consume enough vegetables and fruits. works for me perfectly.


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metalmonkey80
Joined: 15.08.2013

Hi lukaskan,

All good points. :f_thumbsup:
One thing to remember is not to drink too much water. 5-7 pints is fine, too much can reduce the vitamins you take in.


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