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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $6.91 (142.5 bb)
BTN: $5.21 (130.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $4.45 (111.5 bb)
SB: $3.83 (96.5 bb)
BB: $4 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T♣: A♣:
Hero raises to $0.14, 3 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) 4♣: Q♠: 3♣: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.19, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.51

Turn: ($1.70) 6♥: (2 players)
BB bets $1.21, Hero folds

Results:

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$1.70 pot ($0.08 rake)
Final Board: 4♣: Q♠: 3♣: 6♥:
Hero mucked T♣: A♣: and lost (-$0.84 net)
BB mucked and won $1.62 ($0.78 net)

Hi, my question is, is it profitable to call 3bet OTF with FD? If yes, can we call T when villain bets 1/2 of the pot and smaller? If not, does it differ when we have position?


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

On flop we I think its good call. We need to win another 80 cents if we hit.

If he bets 1/2 (85 cents) on turn, pot woudl be 2.55, and we need 0.85*4 = 3.4 pot. So if we hit we need to win 85 cents more on avg.

I think its considerable when we are IP and also our draw is to the nuts.

I think it differes a lot when we are IP. Cause when OOP - if we hit and check, he might check back and we do not win extra. If we donkbet OOP - then he sees this as strong move, cause we do not donkbet bluff; also when he has marginal hand - he just calls, so we win less. When he has marginal hand OOP, he might still want a value, for exaplle he has 8 high FD. He bets OOP because he does not want to risk that we check back.

And we raise. Now he will call most of the time with 8 high FD and we win money.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

It is just a raise OTF, not a 3bet. But I think you get the correct odds to call his raise OTF with your nut FD.
OTT we just take our calculator again and see if we can call :) If he bets under 1/2 pot you should have a mathematical call. Against that bet size I think folding is best.
You played this hand well.


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jimmy21492
Joined: 17.11.2010

OTF: You have good implied odds playing in position against this bet and IMO should call. But it's a thin line, considering he can a have a set and can hit a FH. (If OOP I would not call this size bet).

Turn: You should call 1/2 pot size bets. (If OOP, a 1/2 pot size call is still ok, but i rather fold bucause you probably don't have enough implied odds if you hit your Flush)


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Sorry, there should be raise of course, not 3 bet. Thanks for responses guys.


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