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How can i Believe the Pokerstars is not Rigged after this hand?

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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

I once had 11 Royals in a single month. :profit:


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microstraddler
Joined: 05.12.2016

@babakohlala

I can recommend this article on poker psychology. Unfortunately it requires silver status. :(

poker psychology - professional attitude

Check it out when you reach silver. A really good read.

Cheers!


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ptortoise
Joined: 22.07.2010

That's nothing. On full tilt several years ago I have %100 loss ratio all in with pocket aces. Before the flop. Never ever won. My entire 50 dollar. It was in fact proven to be rigged and they lost licence. Oh and certain players knew which cards would win, like that guy with the cowboy hat. Always a really bad beat too.


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SignOff1970
Joined: 24.04.2011

Fear not baba, there is hope....the 0.33 sat for sundays storm is the worst of the worst of the worst....and yet...

The only thing you have to forfeit is that thing that every coach likes to tell tales about: Fold Equity :f_thumbsup:

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Poker Stars $0.30+$0.03 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds + t15 - 8 players - View hand 3016066
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: t18761 M = 54.38
Hero (BB): t9300 M = 26.96
UTG: t9680 M = 28.06
UTG+1: t17457 M = 50.60
MP1: t10000 M = 28.99
MP2: t7013 M = 20.33
CO: t14054 M = 40.74
BTN: t9580 M = 27.77

Pre Flop: (t345) Hero is BB with A :club: A :diamond:
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t150, MP1 calls t150, MP2 raises to t300, 2 folds, SB calls t225, Hero raises to t9285 all in, 1 fold, MP1 calls t9135, MP2 calls t6698 all in, SB raises to t18746 all in, MP1 calls t700 all in

Flop: (t36523) 9 :spade: A :spade: 5 :club: (4 players - 4 are all in)

Turn: (t36523) 8 :spade: (4 players - 4 are all in)

River: (t36523) Q :spade: (4 players - 4 are all in)

Final Pot: t36523
SB shows 6 :diamond: 8 :diamond: (a pair of Eights)
Hero shows A :club: A :diamond: (three of a kind, Aces)
MP1 shows 4 :heart: 3 :heart: (high card Ace)
MP2 shows A :heart: T :heart: (a pair of Aces)
SB wins t1400
Hero wins t6861
Hero wins t28262


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Noname81
Joined: 31.12.2013

Originally posted by McCShark
I agree with you on the rigging, especially when your up against the bigger stack. But I also believe its the same on the cash tables. Im an 888 member 6 years, in the past 3 years Iv played very little there, too many donks, bots, and idiot players, who if were in a real game would get a hiding for the hands they play.
I like you had ( top hand), and professional players iv showed it to also say yep, you were had. I had in hand AA, next 3 cards were 6,6,A, so naturally when he raised my check to $80, I reraised him to $160, he goes allin, I call, the pot stands at $520. He shows (88) turn 8, river 8, Now you tell me thats not rigged.

feel for you mate

You do not like Playing against donks, bots and idiot players. You would rather sit at a table full good players? The bots on 888 are from the Shanky Bot company. If you cant beat these bots then you have problem on your hands. These bots do not adjust and are easily exploitable. Your logic here is almost as convoluted as the Stars is rigged bull shit


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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JediMasterC
Joined: 02.12.2010

Originally posted by greatpk
For all of you who thinks that any poker site is rigged, just think about twice when saying it loud next time. Whats the point for them to rigging, in order to get caught and loose their whole reputation?
If you call a site rigged just because you loose with KK or AA, then i can tell you, that it will happen eventually and not only once. Its poker guys, nothing you can do about bad beats but accepting em.
Avoid putting your whole stack on varriance based outcome. Its never a guaranteed win, when you shove on flop with AA. Some one might have two pairs or set of OESD or flush draw and completing it by river. Thats what happens. And it happens to all of us.
Conclusion: none of well known pokersites are rigged. It just doesnt make any sense. Improve yourself and your gameplay other than whining about rigged sites and bad luck. Analyse your hands and maybe you find some leaks, you could have avoided and there fore minimizing your losses.

Hm lets see... Companies located / having "licenses" in Tax heavens, where they operate under poor regulations and absolutely zero transparency. Add to that how many players actually have large enough sample for proper analysis, or have the integrity to inform the public of any wrong doing? Its simple, when money talks bullshit walks. The incentive is and it will always be more money, and the way to do it is simply creating action which is why we see villains improving with each street - vast majority of times and hitting that "perfect" card, just for the sake of action and more profit.

So that was once, now if i think the second time, and remember all the evidence of corruption in Online Poker industry, it is dumb - and it is understatement to present such weak attempt at reasoning..."Whats the point for them to rigging, in order to get caught and loose their whole reputation?"... i mean lolz... As if, greedy behaviour is not observable in the environment, right? Why make half a billion, if you can make a billion especially if the only regulation there is, is a 50 year old lady at "gaming commision" drinking coffee all day and getting visits from the Lobbyist.


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JediMasterC
Joined: 02.12.2010

Originally posted by RoyalScopez
It's just psychology... :) It's just so much harder to experience the "bad" than the "good" , I mean if you win a pot, or a flip... lot of the times especially if you are grinding, you feel nothing, or even you describe your situation as you "deserved" this flip or 30-70, 60-40 whatever. So when you start to lose constantly it feels a lot more worse, you start to lose flips, a 20-80, a 60-40, postflop coolers etc. what is the evidence? easy:
- How many times you tell bad beat/cooler stories like this, and how many times you tell the stories when YOU CAUSED a cooler and or bad beat... probably far-far away a russian guy on a forum, tells a story about YOU, and says this site is rigged.

Anyhow, it's just % and numbers, once I lost flopped quads vs. backdoor straight flushdraw (I remember this, because this one was just ridiculous, and I started to laugh)
Or another example a kind of positive one, unfortunately I don't have all the databases in HM2, I guess I played like... 600k hand, and I already had 4 royal flush :f_p:

Mathematically ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN... like literally... you lose 200 flips in a row? YES. it's possible, your next 20 AA will be crushed? YES. it's possible, anything is possible there is just one thing, what is the chance? you even have a chance to get 25x multiplier in spins 100 times in a row... it's just... really really low :f_ugly:

You speak as if many of Poker Players do not have Software which tells them the exact statistics, meaning the "argument" of selective memory gets destroyed again.

Yes, "anything" can happen mathematically, but now tell me what are the odds of loosing 200 flips in a row?


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Noname81
Joined: 31.12.2013

Originally posted by greatpk
For all of you who thinks that any poker site is rigged, just think about twice when saying it loud next time. Whats the point for them to rigging, in order to get caught and loose their whole reputation?
If you call a site rigged just because you loose with KK or AA, then i can tell you, that it will happen eventually and not only once. Its poker guys, nothing you can do about bad beats but accepting em.
Avoid putting your whole stack on varriance based outcome. Its never a guaranteed win, when you shove on flop with AA. Some one might have two pairs or set of OESD or flush draw and completing it by river. Thats what happens. And it happens to all of us.
Conclusion: none of well known pokersites are rigged. It just doesnt make any sense. Improve yourself and your gameplay other than whining about rigged sites and bad luck. Analyse your hands and maybe you find some leaks, you could have avoided and there fore minimizing your losses.

But he had KK!!!!
You can lead a horse to water but you cant force him to drink..........


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Originally posted by JediMasterC

Originally posted by greatpk
For all of you who thinks that any poker site is rigged, just think about twice when saying it loud next time. Whats the point for them to rigging, in order to get caught and loose their whole reputation?
If you call a site rigged just because you loose with KK or AA, then i can tell you, that it will happen eventually and not only once. Its poker guys, nothing you can do about bad beats but accepting em.
Avoid putting your whole stack on varriance based outcome. Its never a guaranteed win, when you shove on flop with AA. Some one might have two pairs or set of OESD or flush draw and completing it by river. Thats what happens. And it happens to all of us.
Conclusion: none of well known pokersites are rigged. It just doesnt make any sense. Improve yourself and your gameplay other than whining about rigged sites and bad luck. Analyse your hands and maybe you find some leaks, you could have avoided and there fore minimizing your losses.

Hm lets see... Companies located / having "licenses" in Tax heavens, where they operate under poor regulations and absolutely zero transparency. Add to that how many players actually have large enough sample for proper analysis, or have the integrity to inform the public of any wrong doing? Its simple, when money talks bullshit walks. The incentive is and it will always be more money, and the way to do it is simply creating action which is why we see villains improving with each street - vast majority of times and hitting that "perfect" card, just for the sake of action and more profit.

So that was once, now if i think the second time, and remember all the evidence of corruption in Online Poker industry, it is dumb - and it is understatement to present such weak attempt at reasoning..."Whats the point for them to rigging, in order to get caught and loose their whole reputation?"... i mean lolz... As if, greedy behaviour is not observable in the environment, right? Why make half a billion, if you can make a billion especially if the only regulation there is, is a 50 year old lady at "gaming commision" drinking coffee all day and getting visits from the Lobbyist.

By this logic any form of poker is rigged live or online. Bad beats happen in live games too. Online they seem more frequent because you are playing 10x more hands per hour than live. If the online games were rigged I would be unable to make a living playing this game.


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suitedaces1701
Joined: 30.10.2011

Because the earth is flat.


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

I am sorry to burst your dreams, but losing a 88% hand is not something that never happens. I have seen (shortstacks) winning runner runner (with only 0,3% when going allin on the flop) - you cant say a pokersite is rigged, just after one badbeat.

Be happy that you got it in super good this time - keep doing that and you will be profitable. Good luck :f_thumbsup:


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Tichwich85
Joined: 14.04.2012

I do not recommend going near any of the spin & go games

Its 1000 times worse there...But sometimes in your favor too...bigtime


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Mandator
Joined: 02.02.2008