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KK off the BTN facing 4b shove + caller

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TakingAShot
Joined: 29.05.2017

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $3.42 (VPIP: 22.48, PFR: 16.93, 3Bet Preflop: 11.03, Hands: 407)
MP: $6.01 (VPIP: 17.09, PFR: 11.30, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 117)
CO: $0.40 (VPIP: 33.78, PFR: 27.03, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 74)
Hero (BTN): $3.82
SB: $8.26 (VPIP: 95.95, PFR: 66.22, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 77)
BB: $3.81 (VPIP: 18.73, PFR: 13.73, 3Bet Preflop: 8.24, Hands: 426)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K♥ K♣

UTG raises to $0.06, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $8.26 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls $3.36 and is all-in, Hero ???


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insomnia666
Joined: 31.07.2010

Call...Vs this agro fish, UTG will call at least AK, QQ. I prefer call from BU vs UTG. With this ape behind me.


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rompas
Joined: 12.02.2014

3 bet size i would make smaller 0,18 is ok as you had with your QQ hand , if you 3-bet bigger with your strong premium hands like KK and AA people will notice it and you will not get the action you want, as this hand is played i would call , noway to fold KK preflop


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TakingAShot
Joined: 29.05.2017

UTG was just screaming AA's to me and I really didn't think it would be good to stack off with that many bb's pre in a 3 way pot like that. This was a tough, tough session. Folded out AJs once pre and it would have binked the NF on the flop and I would have won 300 bb's. Huge pot. AJs again, same situation with 2 others all in, call and boom 77 all in catches quads by the river. Then, this KK hand came up.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $3.42 (VPIP: 22.48, PFR: 16.93, 3Bet Preflop: 11.03, Hands: 407)
MP: $6.01 (VPIP: 17.09, PFR: 11.30, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 117)
CO: $0.40 (VPIP: 33.78, PFR: 27.03, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 74)
Hero (BTN): $3.82
SB: $8.26 (VPIP: 95.95, PFR: 66.22, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 77)
BB: $3.81 (VPIP: 18.73, PFR: 13.73, 3Bet Preflop: 8.24, Hands: 426)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K♥ K♣

UTG raises to $0.06, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $8.26 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls $3.36 and is all-in, fold

Flop: ($7.16, 2 players) 8♦ 8♠ 2♣

Turn: ($7.16, 2 players) 9♥

River: ($7.16, 2 players) Q♥

UTG shows 4♦ 4♥ (Two Pair, Eights and Fours)
(Pre 49%, Flop 65%, Turn 5%)
SB shows 9♦ Q♦ (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
(Pre 51%, Flop 35%, Turn 95%)
SB wins $6.81
Rake paid $0.25

$0.10 was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Lower the 3bet size


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Weird 3bet size.
I would call here :)

This looks quite scary but I just wouldn't fold KK. Sometimes you will of course lose to AA but on the long run going broke pre with KK will be profitable.


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TakingAShot
Joined: 29.05.2017

Originally posted by la55i
Weird 3bet size.
I would call here :)

This looks quite scary but I just wouldn't fold KK. Sometimes you will of course lose to AA but on the long run going broke pre with KK will be profitable.

You know, when I think about the hand and pretend I was on a 15 BI upswing at the time, of course I would have never folded there. So, once again, it looks like this hand is the result of mental leveling. Believe me, I didn't want to fold it but I just thought of sitting there, after getting stacked, and saying to myself "you knew he had AA so why would you call?". Of course, I wasn't thrilled to see 44.


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TurokRider
Joined: 21.10.2011

I would snap call, with KK and AA here. Every other hand, I fold


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TakingAShot
Joined: 29.05.2017

I don't know who voted the thread down but I really don't blame you. In retrospect here, JFC was this terrible. I didn't do it today, though. I couldn't find the button to put the money in fast enough here:

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD & Database

NL Holdem $0.02(BB)
HJ ($1.97)
HERO ($3.19)
BTN ($2)
SB ($2.51)
BB ($5.04)

Dealt to Hero K♥ K♠

HJ Calls $0.02 (Rem. Stack: 1.95), HERO Raises To $0.1 (Rem. Stack: 3.09), BTN Folds, SB $2.50 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0.00), BB Folds, HJ Folds, HERO $3.09 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0.00)

Flop ($5.74) 3♦ 7♥ 2♣

Turn ($5.74) 3♦ 7♥ 2♣ T♥

River ($5.74) 3♦ 7♥ 2♣ T♥ 4♠

SB shows A♣ K♣

HERO wins $5.46

This is largely mental on WPN. Rather than say "well, I can redeposit", I'm going to throw another 25 BI's on there for the rest of the month just to a) commit further and b) psychologically just see it there on the balance. Once I know it's there, I won't look at the balance on that network through a few thousand hands.

I had 65% equity in this hand. If I would have folded *here* it would have been terrible. I can only look at the first post in this thread and shake my head now.

Earlier today, on WPN itself, I acted on a read here and GII w/ 86% equity, too:

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $2.92 (VPIP: 22.65, PFR: 19.16, 3Bet Preflop: 3.88, Hands: 299)
BB: $2.00 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 18)
UTG: $2.14 (VPIP: 22.38, PFR: 19.71, 3Bet Preflop: 7.79, Hands: 214)
MP: $1.13 (VPIP: 58.82, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
CO: $4.11 (VPIP: 18.61, PFR: 16.72, 3Bet Preflop: 6.96, Hands: 327)
Hero (BTN): $2.12

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q♥ Q♣

fold, MP raises to $0.04, fold, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, MP raises to $1.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.97

Flop: ($2.29, 2 players) 6♥ 9♥ 2♦

Turn: ($2.29, 2 players) 2♠

River: ($2.29, 2 players) 3♦

MP shows J♠ T♥ (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 14%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows Q♥ Q♣ (Two Pair, Queens and Twos)
(Pre 86%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $2.18
Rake paid $0.09

$0.02 was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.

I mean, one network is clearly a totally different world than the other talent wise but I see that I have a ton of leaks to plug and can pick up numerous bb's/100 just through study and adjustment.


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