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AQo facing 4bet shove

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sirilidion
Joined: 15.04.2008

No Limit Holdem Tournament
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9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
$3.00+$0.30

Stacks:
UTG mirmymir (4,614) 38bb
UTG+1 men05 (2,218) 18bb
MP1 ballerlasco (3,000) 25bb
MP2 chrischris44 (6,049) 50bb
MP3 Hero (6,212) 52bb
CO zakatak986 (3,326) 28bb
BTN RobsonDMelo (2,729) 23bb
SB RNGadmin (2,617) 22bb
BB Augustoplc (2,854) 24bb

Blinds: 60/120 Ante 15

Pre-Flop: (315, 9 players) Hero is MP3 Q♦ A♥
2 folds, ballerlasco calls 120, chrischris44 raises to 420, Hero raises to 1,200, 4 folds, ballerlasco folds, chrischris44 goes all-in 6,034, Hero calls 4,834
Flop: 2♥ A♣ 10:club: (12,503, 2 players), 1 all-in

Turn: 3♦ (12,503, 2), 1 all-in
River: Q♣ (12,503, 2), 1 all-in

Final Pot: 12,503

Villian: 39 hands 36 vpip 29 pfr

Villian seem pretty active so I it was more likely that his 4bet would be wider too. Is this call correct or should we assume he isn't 4betting wide enough?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It would be better if you remove the outcome of the hand next time or put it in a spoiler. That could influence the feedback what you get. In most cases I would just fold AQo to a 4bet shove, because I expect most players will only 4bet with AK and TT+ or so and maybe even tighter. Now we don’t have 4bet stats on him and I would still fold even are his other stats aggressive.

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sirilidion
Joined: 15.04.2008

@SDK1987: Sorry, didn't think about removing the results. have removed them now and will try to do so in the future.

Him being so aggressive I thought it is a bit more likely he also has some 4bet bluffs in his range for example some blocker type hands as KQ or AJ and have seem many 4bet shoving lower pocket pairs then TT we are getting 1.6 to 1 which means we only need 40 % equity to make to call profitable. If he doesn't have any 4bet bluffingrange it indeed a bad call, but even if he has 1 combination of blockers it is already close and if he has a few it becomes a clear call.

as for not having any 4bet stats on him. you need quite a few hand to have a good idea about someone 4bet tendencies. This being a mtt format it is very rare you ever will have enough hands on someone 4bet-range with exception with some regs. So you need to go mostly from reads and other tendencies, imo.


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Jaunais
Joined: 24.01.2014

Very bad line from you. I would just fold PRE as MAX you can do here is flat (or 4bet/bluff) but in such stacks depths you cant 4bet bluff as you will have to call of MP1 if he shoves and MP2 folds, if you choose to 4bet AQx you have to understand you do it as a bluff and you fold vs allin, even if you get called you have to be worried as many nowadays like to flat AKx or even slowplay some other premiums.

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Kinghu
Joined: 27.09.2016

AQo is about 50/50 against AA-TT,AK-AJ, KQ.
If you think he has more in his range it moves in your favor.
Its a tricky one, normally raise and fold to shove would be ok, as his shoving range likly has you beat, but with these odds I think you can justify the call however i think I'd fold as i don't want to get chips in when most likily behind.


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