HUSNG's are absolutely pointless...

Originally posted by cardinhand
^ I know this looks like a bad beat but i'm kind of curious. what was your mindset going all-in here?

I was way ahead of villain's calling range. He was loose, wild, and looking to get the sng over with early.

I wasn't upset about this one or anything...I just thought I'd post it. I switched networks because they have a much better, faster structure and now it's not anonymous. They also start @ $1.50 a game so I'm up to that from $1 flat.

I mean, I'm down almost 2:1 in chips and the blinds are about to go up to 25/50. Why else would I be looking to get the money in here?

I looked quickly: He should be calling a shove with roughly 10% of his range there which puts me as the favorite by slightly better than a coin toss.

edit: Am I missing something?

No, i don't think your decision was wrong, for me i would have waited to see flop before i make anything like that.

Originally posted by cardinhand
No, i don't think your decision was wrong, for me i would have waited to see flop before i make anything like that.

The point of shoving in many cases is so that your hand realizes it's full equity. If I wait to see the flop there, what if it's terrible but the turn and river would be gold? I won't see them if the flop's bad and I haven't shoved all in. It was definitely a loose shove but villain was a spaz.

If you dig through Nash charts (I just started to a couple of weeks ago myself) you'll see that starting at around 15 bb's and less, they have you shoving much wider than you would imagine. Similarly, if you think you can get villain to go all in with you as a 55%+ favorite early, it's typically the right play. When considering hourly return on investment, sometimes getting these over with sooner than later (if you can) is the right play.

Of course, I'm beginning to run into the situation where villain is ready to play for stacks early, I know I'm going to be a 60-70% favorite, but I also know that I can almost definitely outplay this guy and win in the long run. Still, it would be best to get the money in as a favorite early (as I understand it) since as the blinds escalate, this is probably the best all in (highest equity) I'm going to see. Rather than wait until we're both in push shove mode and the game's virtually going to be a coin toss, take him down early with high equity. If you lose, you lose - but you got the money in good.

Look for spots like this where you can force villain to make a difficult decision when he overextends himself into a pot early. Basically, if he folds - he's down 2:1 and his chances of winning just dropped tremendously. If he calls, he's almost definitely behind and probably losing right there. With overaggressive's, this is a great way to handle them before the 100 blinds level.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD & Database

NL Holdem $50(BB)
BB ($1575)
HERO ($1425)

Dealt to Hero 2♣ Q♥

HERO Raises To $75 (Rem. Stack: 1325), BB Calls $50 (Rem. Stack: 1475)

Flop ($200) 9♠ 3♠ Q♣
BB Checks, HERO Bets $100 (Rem. Stack: 1225), BB Calls $100 (Rem. Stack: 1375)

Turn ($400) 9♠ 3♠ Q♣ 4♦
BB Checks, HERO Checks

River ($400) 9♠ 3♠ Q♣ 4♦ 2♠
BB Bets $1375 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0), HERO Calls $1225 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0)

BB shows 6♦ A♠

HERO wins $2850
BB wins $150

Thought process:

Villain had shown a 27% aggression over ~40 hands previously although he started out > 50% until I started playing back well. As of the last few hands, the speed he's played at and how he's played gave me a ton of information. If he has the spade draw he's betting turn a large percentage of the time here, IMO. When the river shows a spade and pairs the board, going under the assumption that he's not hit his flush, I'm a huge favorite here and his insta shove seems like a rather obvious bluff.

Originally posted by TakingAShot
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NL Holdem $50(BB)
BB ($1575)
HERO ($1425)

Dealt to Hero 2♣ Q♥

HERO Raises To $75 (Rem. Stack: 1325), BB Calls $50 (Rem. Stack: 1475)

Flop ($200) 9♠ 3♠ Q♣
BB Checks, HERO Bets $100 (Rem. Stack: 1225), BB Calls $100 (Rem. Stack: 1375)

Turn ($400) 9♠ 3♠ Q♣ 4♦
BB Checks, HERO Checks

River ($400) 9♠ 3♠ Q♣ 4♦ 2♠
BB Bets $1375 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0), HERO Calls $1225 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0)

BB shows 6♦ A♠

HERO wins $2850
BB wins $150

Thought process:

Villain had shown a 27% aggression over ~40 hands previously although he started out > 50% until I started playing back well. As of the last few hands, the speed he's played at and how he's played gave me a ton of information. If he has the spade draw he's betting turn a large percentage of the time here, IMO. When the river shows a spade and pairs the board, going under the assumption that he's not hit his flush, I'm a huge favorite here and his insta shove seems like a rather obvious bluff.

Bad bluff from villian imo. He would likely be c/r his flush draws and probably the GS he is repping on the river, and the likelyhood of him backing into the GS straight draw is unlikely. I guess he does rep it with the As, but the line seems pretty bluffy imo. Good job at protecting your turn checking range there. My guess is villian though OH SCARY RUN OUT TIME 4 BLUFF. I think it would be tougher if he raised his backdoor fd, but idk how heads up works imo.

Good bluff catch

I've had a lot of great bluff catches lately and my hand reading is better than ever. That said, these are mostly really bad players I'm facing off against and I know as soon as I move up ($3 a game is next), I'll have new lessons to learn and new challenges. Still, according to most, the games shouldn't be that much different until $10+ a game. I have the bankroll for it but I don't want to put the horse before the cart and disrupt my current progress by moving up too soon. My sample size is small and I need to continue studying and working on my game right now.

Originally posted by Chowchow12

Originally posted by TakingAShot
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NL Holdem $50(BB)
BB ($1575)
HERO ($1425)

Dealt to Hero 2♣ Q♥

HERO Raises To $75 (Rem. Stack: 1325), BB Calls $50 (Rem. Stack: 1475)

Flop ($200) 9♠ 3♠ Q♣
BB Checks, HERO Bets $100 (Rem. Stack: 1225), BB Calls $100 (Rem. Stack: 1375)

Turn ($400) 9♠ 3♠ Q♣ 4♦
BB Checks, HERO Checks

River ($400) 9♠ 3♠ Q♣ 4♦ 2♠
BB Bets $1375 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0), HERO Calls $1225 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0)

BB shows 6♦ A♠

HERO wins $2850
BB wins $150

Thought process:

Villain had shown a 27% aggression over ~40 hands previously although he started out > 50% until I started playing back well. As of the last few hands, the speed he's played at and how he's played gave me a ton of information. If he has the spade draw he's betting turn a large percentage of the time here, IMO. When the river shows a spade and pairs the board, going under the assumption that he's not hit his flush, I'm a huge favorite here and his insta shove seems like a rather obvious bluff.

Bad bluff from villian imo. He would likely be c/r his flush draws and probably the GS he is repping on the river, and the likelyhood of him backing into the GS straight draw is unlikely. I guess he does rep it with the As, but the line seems pretty bluffy imo. Good job at protecting your turn checking range there. My guess is villian though OH SCARY RUN OUT TIME 4 BLUFF. I think it would be tougher if he raised his backdoor fd, but idk how heads up works imo.

Good bluff catch

Well if he wants to have shove range on river I would say that combo is one of the best as bluff. Blocks lot of nutty hands and some Ax, KJ, Qx of spades are pretty nice to play with check-call on flop. You have showdown value so you dont necessarily want to turn them into semibluffs or value raise. Sometimes you can but not always.

If opponent is balanced on his play hero Q2 is actually pretty bad bluff catch combo. It doesnt have blockers into villain value range at all. Which is probably going to be mainly flushes and sometimes perhaps some A5.

Originally posted by TakingAShot
I know as soon as I move up ($3 a game is next),

What stakes are you playing at present?

Originally posted by mostlyfolding

Originally posted by TakingAShot
I know as soon as I move up ($3 a game is next),

What stakes are you playing at present?

$1.50's

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD & Database

NL Holdem $20(BB)
BTN ($1640)
HERO ($1360)

Dealt to Hero 8♣ A♣

BTN Raises To $50 (Rem. Stack: 1580), HERO Raises To $180 (Rem. Stack: 1160), BTN Calls $140 (Rem. Stack: 1440)

Flop ($400) 3♣ J♠ 5♦
HERO Checks, BTN Checks

Turn ($400) 3♣ J♠ 5♦ 5♥
HERO Bets $200 (Rem. Stack: 960), BTN Raises To $600 (Rem. Stack: 840), HERO Raises To $960 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0), BTN Folds

HERO wins $2160

♠_rolleyes: Went a little out on a limb here but I'm just starting to work on larger bluffs.

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NL Holdem $50(BB)
BB ($1327)
HERO ($1673)

Dealt to Hero A♣ K♥

HERO Raises To $75 (Rem. Stack: 1573), BB Raises To $220 (Rem. Stack: 1057), HERO Raises To $1573 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0), BB Calls $1057 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0)

Flop ($3000) T♦ 9♣ K♦

Turn ($3000) T♦ 9♣ K♦ T♣

River ($3000) T♦ 9♣ K♦ T♣ 9♦

BB shows 8♣ 8♠

HERO wins $3000

I would imagine this is a near break even play (still need to learn how to use CREV) but w/ 44% equity + fold equity + loose player = I can certainly see the argument for getting it in here although I do also see the need to sometimes hero fold this. In a HUSNG, I can't really remember not getting it in with AKo/s yet, though.

Of course, he was the favorite here but I think he kind of deserved it for shipping it that deep with 88. Thoughts?

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD & Database

NL Holdem $50(BB)
BB ($1327)
HERO ($1673)

Dealt to Hero A♣ K♥

HERO Raises To $75 (Rem. Stack: 1573), BB Raises To $220 (Rem. Stack: 1057), HERO Raises To $1573 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0), BB Calls $1057 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0)

Flop ($3000) T♦ 9♣ K♦

Turn ($3000) T♦ 9♣ K♦ T♣

River ($3000) T♦ 9♣ K♦ T♣ 9♦

BB shows 8♣ 8♠

HERO wins $3000

This hand driven to you directly from DriveHUD Poker HUD & Database
Board: Xx Xx Xx Xx Xx

Equity Win Tie Hand Range

50.8253% 40.5064% 10.3189% [ TT+(100), AQs+(100), AQo+(100) ]

49.1747% 38.8557% 10.3189% [ AcKh ]

Letting DriveHUD quickly calculate villain's range here, I guess I would make this play every time considering that if he folds he's down 2:1 in chips.

hey man!
I think I may have been in your position some time ago.
I spent most of my free time from 2011 to 2014 playing online poker at various poker sites.
Eventually I decided that it was not worth the 2 hour grind + review that I was putting in and I invested that time elsewhere.
Now I'm in my 3rd year Uni, have a full time paying job , and slowly building my youtube channel that earns me x dollars per day.
My advice is to invest your time doing other things and see poker as a hobby where it's okay if you win or lose because it won't negatively impact your ability to pay for things.

Originally posted by TakingAShot

Originally posted by mostlyfolding

Originally posted by TakingAShot
I know as soon as I move up ($3 a game is next),

What stakes are you playing at present?

$1.50's

Originally posted by TakingAShot
I just checked out your blog. Dude, you have a bankroll of less than $50 and play nanostakes. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. What a little troll.

I also play $1.50s

Edit: I changed my response. Maybe you weren't being combative and I shouldn't have assumed so.

If your bankroll is truly @ $39, $1.50's are a huge strain. The thing about the HUSNG's is that they don't go much lower than that. Of course, if you're winning you're winning but one bad day and your bankroll's basically bust.

My banroll was correct for $1.50 9 man turbo but I've been on one of those downswing things. Actually, it's more to do with my weak mid-blind level performance, and that I hesitate to ramp up aggression, especially with respect to resteals, mid-game. I am working on these aspects of my game.

Originally posted by mostlyfolding
My banroll was correct for $1.50 9 man turbo but I've been on one of those downswing things. Actually, it's more to do with my weak mid-blind level performance, and that I hesitate to ramp up aggression, especially with respect to resteals, mid-game. I am working on these aspects of my game.

I think I'm going to start playing spin and go's/jackpots alongside the HUSNG's I'm playing right now. I just played my first MTT in like 2+ years. Nanostakes, R/A, just to get my feet wet again. Most of my experience in the past is cash game experience so I wanted to dig into tournament a little and develop a bit of a foundation before deciding which way to branch out and specialize.

Everything here is extremely outdated now. In just a couple of weeks, a ton has changed. Although I didn't wind up sticking with HUSNG's (or tournament structures at all, at that), they did get me back into the game more seriously, balanced, and open to learning than ever. I'm a much better player now and am having more success @ 10NL than I did @2NL for a few years. I'm actually already eyeing 25NL on one network.

I was spending a lot of time studying on RedChipPoker - which is a great site - but it has a new 1%/70% model that is largely centered around full ring casino games. They're trying to just act as if it applies to shorthanded poker online and in poker clubs but it's just too easily exploitable when you "take the gloves off" and play raw NLHE.

My focus is entirely shorthanded cash, online and off. I'm playing and studying a ton and will probably pick up a gold again here this month as I see some fantastic material for where I'm at being added readily. I also have an essential sub to RunItOnce and between the content here and there, I'm excited to continue moving in this extremely positive direction.

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