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KK BvB and A on the River

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jxb1977
Joined: 13.08.2009

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $2.06 (103 bb)
BB: $4.29 (214.5 bb)
MP: $2.04 (102 bb)
CO: $2 (100 bb)
BTN: $2.32 (116 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♠: K♥:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12) 6♠: J♥: 5♣: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.28) 5♦: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

River: ($0.68) A♥: (2 players)
Hero??

So would really like any thoughts on this. No stats on villain as only played 14 hands. Think it is pretty standard up to the river. On the river I can't bet for value so is it a check/call or check/fold, depending on bet size?

Thanks


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

That seems like a good plan indeed, but if you have any reads it could help as well.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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LacsapR
Joined: 14.07.2011

I'd also consider a small block bet and fold to a raise


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oceter
Joined: 27.08.2015

Im not post flop expert so i cant give advice, but will you guys call first 2 streets with Ax high here as a villain as a bluff catcher ?


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Why not bet the river? You beat KJ QJ TJ QQ TT 99 88 77 Some K6 and whatever he gets sticky with. When he goes ballistic you know you're beat. I would bet half pot myself here.


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Zotyibacsi97
Joined: 20.05.2015

Originally posted by RubbyDubby
Why not bet the river? You beat KJ QJ TJ QQ TT 99 88 77 Some K6 and whatever he gets sticky with. When he goes ballistic you know you're beat. I would bet half pot myself here.

Ye, that's a easy vbet with ~33% size, also it's pretty rare he has some Ax.

Im not post flop expert so i cant give advice, but will you guys call first 2 streets with Ax high here as a villain as a bluff catcher ?

No


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

AJ is not calling?


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Originally posted by nitrol
AJ is not calling?

I don't think so but when he calls, so what?


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MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

I would just bet/fold on the river. About the sizing I think it can be between 33-50% of the pot. But at those limits I would more prefer half pot to maximize our value. He would still call us with 2rd and 3rd pairs. And you easily avoid some nonsense raise on your smaller bet OTR.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by RubbyDubby

Originally posted by nitrol
AJ is not calling?

I don't think so but when he calls, so what?

I do not get this.


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by RubbyDubby

Originally posted by nitrol
AJ is not calling?

I don't think so but when he calls, so what?

I do not get this.

I Do not think AJ will call but will value bet.

But if he calls you have a very easy decision ( namely none :)) so no problem at all.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I think he can play AJ like that on flop and turn.


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Originally posted by nitrol
I think he can play AJ like that on flop and turn.

Ah OK. Now I uderstand.

Yes he can, but I also think it's tot likely.

I would not play my TPTK IP like that and he has 2 buy-ins, which means he knows a bit how to get value from good hands (real fish can't).


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

How would you play AJ in his place?


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xxnub
Joined: 04.12.2007

Bet 40-50% of the pot and fold to raise this is spot for hero call for him with medium Jack.


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Originally posted by nitrol
How would you play AJ in his place?

Probably raise the turn...
You beat KJ QJ TJ QQ TT 99 88 77 Some K6 and whatever he gets sticky with

Maybe you'll get even KK to fold


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

How many of these will call a raise on turn?


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Originally posted by nitrol
How many of these will call a raise on turn?

Fine my friend. If you want to call it down IP with TPTK be my guest.

For me that is just *way* to weak of a play. You'll only get a river bet from AA KK QQ ( not even from opener :) ) JJ a 5 or 66 (maybe KJ)
So it does not matter when he does not call your value raise.

Maybe: 'How many of these will call a bet on river?'


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You keep avoiding answering to my question.
And all I want to know is what play is better.
Why raise and make him fold all hands that we beat anyway?


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