Where steal (start beting) the pot?

For me this is a good spot to check/raise OTF.

I would definitely 3bet preflop

Since we didnt 3bet preflop, what i recommend in those situations, i dont see any sense of blowing up the pot with bluffs here. We have invested only 2 BB.

W/o villain reads I really don't know if 3bet would be good or not? If 3bet your intention were to collect dead Money or play post flop aggressively?
OTF the board texture is more attached to the pre-flop aggressor than yours, so fold was the best option. You had just 3 outs for TPGK n in this spot you are losing for any A high.

Originally posted by mistralx
For me this is a good spot to check/raise OTF.

Why c/r? I think you do not do it with any hand

Yes, propably the PF is better 3bet with these broadway suitted hands.
- ok, so if we did 3bet pf, F is standart c-bet i think, even though the board is paired. Turn give up? = means, originaly we stop it?-we have just 3outs of A )

Originally posted by Willy411

Originally posted by mistralx
For me this is a good spot to check/raise OTF.

Why c/r? I think you do not do it with any hand
Because these dry flops like this doesn't hits your opponent range and he should cbet here 100% of the time --- he is overfolding on a raise, so it should be profitable to raise here with any two cards, but be careful and don't use it any time, because people can adjust and find that leak, which would be bad for us. And also be careful, some players can do a small reraise, but most of the time it's just shitty bluff, because hands like QQ he would just call and let you bluff again, but it really works (those small reraises), but recommend to use it when people start check/raise a lot. And when you are the check/raisor and facing a small reraise from time to time you can go all in and he should again folding most of the time.
Actually I wouldn't use it at micros, but from time to time it should be fine to have some fun at the tables You want to be unpredictable

Okay, maybe I wrote it little bit chaotically. So in the summary:

1. Check/raising the flop is almost always fine with BDFD, because you can barrel a lot of turns which is fine for example for balance our value range. The second reason - the board si dry doesn't very connected with his range, so he should folding a massive part of his range. But he still want to cbet, because those dry flops doesn't hits also our range, so we will usually overfolds --- he makes a profit. However we don't want to be explotibale of course and check/raising it's the best way how to from bad situation we can make an autoprofit. But again don't use it 100% of the time..

2. When people start thinking more and more if he get raised. One of the options is just call, but they will often face a bet OTT and again they will be in a tough spot which is absolutely fine for us.

3.The second not that good for us is a reraise OTF. And if he is not a fish, you can almost always go all-in like a bluff. Because actually if you are think about which hands can he play this way. IP with nuts or trips he should just call and let us bluff on another street, really I don't see any reason why he should reraise on that dry flop value hands.

But the main idea is to be unpredictable, so you can sometimes check/raise, sometimes just call, sometimes go all-in on reraise and otherwise just fold.

Think we can overbet the river here. He's never checking back a Q and might even bet a 5.
As to the check raise discussion, I think in such a small pot we generate little fold equity taking this line, which is what we need for the line to be effective.

Good summary :).
I understand, good, but if the Villian is reg, we don't have value range for c/r here, don't we? Qx- just call,
3x comobs: T3s, J3s, Q3s, K3s, A3s (if we did not 3bet pf), A3o (he bloks Aspade) = 2*4+1+5 - if I count correctly = 14comb.
That is true, here is possible heart FD, so probably we need a protection (on board without FD, I think it is completely strange to c/r - if we have it, we do not need the protection, so it does not make seance, even though the board doesn't hits opponent's range, to c/r - all the time it would be for bluf, semibluf). But we have more FD in our range, I mean more blufs than value hands I think.
.. And if he is fish.. difficult to say. He will call with 88.

Yeah, but make it in equilab, how many hands of his range (button OR) are Qx? Or any two pairs 88+? Because that is a possible range which he would call on a check/raise and the FDs ofc.

That is true, but if I am Villian I see, it doesn't make sence of opponent's play. I can call many hands than, I think.

Okay, but as I mentioned I would almost always also barrel OTT sth like 2/3, because as you said Villain will adjust so that's the reason why I would continue with betting and trust me it really works, because now your hand looks quite strong.

Ok. And would you continue on only "your cards"? - I mean cards that fits into you EQ (improve BD SD/FD on better) and if not, you stop?

Depends on Villain stats, my image at the table... but as a default I would usually bomb a second barrel on most runouts. But again remind this is a leak many micro players and you want to exploit it how much as possible and get max value, but you don't want to show him this leak, so you should also sometimes just give up OTT or flat OTF. You have an advantage, but it's only up to you how you can exploit it. On some players is better to just call OTF, but this is a poker and actually just these small situations show you how can be poker beautiful game :-)

instinct is what you need in such