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Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
You are so unfair you're now accusing me of being la55i's dog. At least he'll have a good laugh about it ♦

I have at least enough brains to distinguish different spots, thank you very much, as opposed to you who talk about another spot with another villain on another flop and maybe even other positions. You don't seem to get much about poker so I'll stop trying to explain things to you, and I bet I won't be the only one.

Brainlessly yours

I respect your advices and I find some of them usefull and adaptable to my game as well.
But broo, calm your ego down. There is no one simple way to win at poker, each spot, each situation is unique. Its good to have an oppinnon, but there is no need to argue about other person opinnon. Its not like either of you guys would be poker gurus.
Keep it nice and friendly. I hope you will keep giving out the great advices as before, but keep it less personal and lets not offend other players because they think in different way.

Best Regards!

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
You are so unfair you're now accusing me of being la55i's dog. At least he'll have a good laugh about it ♦

I have at least enough brains to distinguish different spots, thank you very much, as opposed to you who talk about another spot with another villain on another flop and maybe even other positions. You don't seem to get much about poker so I'll stop trying to explain things to you, and I bet I won't be the only one.

Brainlessly yours

LoL...

Hmm I didn't just tell my opinion on what we should do OTT as played. I said I agree with the guys that posted above me. There were some good tips and good reasoning. For example CptJokerFish suggested we cbet smaller, and so on.
The point of my post was that imo it is stupid to start asking why we take a certain line OTF if we then have to fold on some specific situation that happens only x% of the time.
There are many many different outcomes and sometimes we can't have a crystal clear image in our heads how the hand is going to play out. Then we do what we think is best and re-evaluate after that.

When you are using this argument, are you now saying that we should fold OTF? If you don't mean that we should fold OTF, then you have to realize that just the fact you did call OTF doesn't mean you would always have to call OTT too or otherwise your flop play would have been bad. If something happens that gives us a reason to re-evaluate and the spot doesn't look so good anymore, we are not committed to see this through just because of our actions on previous streets.

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
You are so unfair you're now accusing me of being la55i's dog. At least he'll have a good laugh about it ♦

Yea definitely not my dog....

My final conclusions from your opinions are:
- If we want to continue with it, we might as well just ship it OTF. I believe I may have some FE if he has AA, KK, QQ, JJ, because the shove may represent a T in my hand.
- If I happen to call OTF and he bets again OTT, he's range is basically: AA, QQ, TT, maybe KK. I don't believe JJ or 99 are doing this move. Despite having just 51bb left and being pot committed, I should fold.

Now the next question is:
- If I call OTF and he checks OTT, what do you do? Check-behind or bet?

Originally posted by zetozinho
My final conclusions from your opinions are:
- If we want to continue with it, we might as well just ship it OTF. I believe I may have some FE if he has AA, KK, QQ, JJ, because the shove may represent a T in my hand.
- If I happen to call OTF and he bets again OTT, he's range is basically: AA, QQ, TT, maybe KK. I don't believe JJ or 99 are doing this move. Despite having just 51bb left and being pot committed, I should fold.

Now the next question is:
- If I call OTF and he checks OTT, what do you do? Check-behind or bet?

Thats why you shove OTF to avoid the spot where you are not sure what to do. Bassicly if he checks turn you might give him a free card and potentionally miss some value from his drawing hands. Thats why I suggest you to shove OTF in spots like theese.

Originally posted by greatpk
I respect your advices and I find some of them usefull and adaptable to my game as well.
But broo, calm your ego down. There is no one simple way to win at poker, each spot, each situation is unique. Its good to have an oppinnon, but there is no need to argue about other person opinnon. Its not like either of you guys would be poker gurus.
Keep it nice and friendly. I hope you will keep giving out the great advices as before, but keep it less personal and lets not offend other players because they think in different way.

Best Regards!

Why are you talking to me and not to him ? It's not me who can't handle discussion.
He's been basically lying and insulting me without even talking about the right spot so for me it's over with this guys is all. No ego thing in it.
Have you already seen a brainless dog with an ego anyway ?

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY

Originally posted by greatpk
I respect your advices and I find some of them usefull and adaptable to my game as well.
But broo, calm your ego down. There is no one simple way to win at poker, each spot, each situation is unique. Its good to have an oppinnon, but there is no need to argue about other person opinnon. Its not like either of you guys would be poker gurus.
Keep it nice and friendly. I hope you will keep giving out the great advices as before, but keep it less personal and lets not offend other players because they think in different way.

Best Regards!

Why are you talking to me and not to him ? It's not me who can't handle discussion.
He's been basically lying and insulting me without even talking about the right spot so for me it's over with this guys is all. No ego thing in it.
Have you already seen a brainless dog with an ego anyway ?

There is no reason to get into a beef. Let it go and keep the atmposhphere friendly.

I'm friendly with everyone, and I just won't lose my time anymore with nitrol is all.

Btw the push OTF, that u guys mension, is due to the AF?

You have a pot size bet left. We are behind AA Tx,22. All fd combos, some AK bluffs, 99,JJ,QQ are good. There are lots of cards that are scary on turn-A,Q,J dimonds.

Originally posted by reggie123

Btw the push OTF, that u guys mension, is due to the AF?

You have a pot size bet left. We are behind AA Tx,22. All fd combos, some AK bluffs, 99,JJ,QQ are good. There are lots of cards that are scary on turn-A,Q,J dimonds.

Totally agree with this.

@MyFloXyBabY - nothing against you personally. I was asking questions, so we all get to the point to understand what is the better play in the hand. I am not that active on the forum right now but there was a time when I was. If you do not find useful my comments, at least they will not harm you.