MyFloXyBabY, problem is that even if I'm not doing a thing I need to be there pretending to work. If I had my own office I would play poker on my working hours but I'm at an open space and I think my colleagues and bosses wouldn't be ok with it.
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I'm not a psychologist and certainly not enough wisdom to give you any advice about your own life but from what you described you are simply unhappy with your actual lifestyle / job etc...
Poker won't change your lifestyle it's not a magic trick and it won't change your behavior in life. Those changes must be done by yourself for yourself.
It's more related to personal development in my opinion and if so you can do it and still choose an other path than poker since it seems poker isn't really necessary to you in order to be happy.
For exemple seek a job in an other company that will match your work ethic or try to find a way to master an other work you might like better and reward you the way you seek.
Now if you truely want to play poker for living and you truely interested in the game then try it during your holidays/weekends and see how it goes.
Then plan few years ahead like explained before because again there is no magic trick that will change your life by playing poker and if you think in a month you will earn the same amount you do in a year of work you think the wrong way.
I'm Not judging or saying that in a offending way but just beeing honest and realistic with you so you don't get yourself in troubles for nothing.
Best of Skills & Luck @ Tables,
OldSchoolPapa.
Originally posted by the13thing
I don't want consumption to be the path of my life. I value experiences and I've been chasing experiences with stuff.
Poker can be your most profitable experience ever. Can you forgo other stuff for a few months to focus on poker so that you can buy more stuff later when you start beating serious stakes? The investment of time into poker study can pay off at a tremendous interest rate if you dedicate almost 100% of your spare time to poker initially.
@OldSchoolPapa It's true I'm in a difficult mental state and I know if I ever venture into this challenge it won't be easy at all. Most certainly in will be harder than my current life. But depending on how things are going, in poker I'm my own boss. There's no one holding me back. There's a dream of progressing. If I'm doing bad it will be 100% on me, not on some boss or some bad management. Not a company or its interests.
@tonypmm, I think I can, I would have to. I don't want to force myself though since the psychology in very important in poker.
@the13thing
If the prob is to be your own boss then you can try to make a startup company or to work in your name as a freelancer in the area you master the best or enjoy the most...
Else like i said for poker try it atleast during holidays and weekends with atleast 4h daily to see if you enjoy that lifestyle coz if not you will just waste your time and time's clock cannot go backward. Then if you enjoy that lifestyle and feel comfortable putting more time into it with study , game reviews and work since it's also work no matter how ya see it then jump in. Previous Posts give you lot of tips and things to consider before to jump in.
But if you just jump in desperatly with the idea it will pass or break without savings , plan B / C & D then you are more likely going to be disappointed at the end and you start with a huge handicap ... Psychologicaly & Financially ... So the outcomes will more likely end with losses , getting broke & maybe gambling addiction ...
If you want to play poker professionally even if i don't myself then consider it as building a business with everything it involves.
Good Luck no matter the path you choose to follow 
Best of Skills & Luck @ Tables,
OldSchoolPapa.
I am sure that as a developer you are intelligent enough and have enough mathematical background to understand poker theory 100%. But, it is not all about understanding theory it is much about discipline, and not tilting which is all hard. As a developer myself and ex poker player i can tell you that poker is much more stressful than being a developer, and it is more profitable just if you are really really good. Keep in mind that in many countrites you have to pay taxes for playing poker because it is your income, if you leave job you have to pay insurance etc, if you go to vacation or are sick nobody pays you for that so you need to make much more money in poker than as developer.
Whoaaah, that´s a brave decision! I can perfectly understand the part with the crappy job because a couple of years ago I had one and went self-employed but not poker-pro. I think you are very brave. I can´t write you anything constructive about going poker pro cause I´m a hobby grindette and plan to remain one but I can maybe help you a bit with becoming self-employed? As poker-pro you are going to be a self-employer.
Anyway, I personally would suggest you to take a part-time-job first, if this is possible. Can you find a part-time-job in your field? If yes, I would go for it and besides try the poker-pro-life. Or what about going self-employed with your work AND try becoming pro besides? Do you have a "Plan C" which means a possible plan when everything goes wrong? The worst case scenario would be that you find out that you don´t like the poker pro life or you don´t win enough at poker. What then?
Don´t get me wrong, I do not wanna speak of the devil already or scare anybody, but I would advice everybody to have a solid backup-plan! ♠_thumbsup:
OldSchoolPapa, I do understand that psychology is a huge part of poker and it will probably be the most crucial aspect I'll have to deal with. It's what scares me the most but I do think I can manage it.
mlatasrb, thanks for the feedback. I do feel poker might be more stressful than plain coding but I'm not so sure when you weigh in the clients, projects, due dates and bosses factor.
Primrose6789, thanks! I'd love some intel on being self employed hehe! My main concern is becoming self employed, either being a poker pro or creating a startup or wtv. I have no money to invest in a business, I'd just have my time (about 4 months) to dedicate on creating my own project/startup and I feel this option is even more worrisome than playing poker cause I won't know what profit to expect till I start having some clients using my service/product. Working part time would be awesome but there are no offers in my area. Working part time on a project of my own and the other part of the time as a poker pro is my ultimate goal but I was thinking of working part time once I was able to make a good amount of money grinding for 4 hours a day only. Till then I was thinking of 8 hours minimum of poker every weekday.
If the sage Aesop was a poker player, I am sure the tortoise route to poker riches would be his wise choice.
@the13thing To start i think that it could be a better idea to split your poker hours with for exemple 4 Hours Poker + 4 Hours Review of your poker sessions and work on your game but like i said i'm not a pro poker player so many players around will give you better interesting advices.
Also think about your bankroll management or it's just gambling for gambling and i don't think it can make any good to you.
Else i wish you a very happy new year and to reach your goals in your personal and professional life.
Best of Skills & Luck @ Tables,
OldSchoolPapa.
To play every day and study poker is NOT the ideal situation, before quiting you should study and study and then decide what to do , 4 months are similar a week ... run away very
fast!
After study you should consider a new job for one month, and maybe you can have a Unemployment subsidies, and you can integrate your salary for a while
This is a big step for you, and you have time to create a start up and become indipendent
So, 13th thing, give the poker pro life a trial run. Find out if you like it or not and if the latter is the case you can look for another job. ♠_smile:
Originally posted by Blitz76
To play every day and study poker is NOT the ideal situation, before quiting you should study and study and then decide what to do , 4 months are similar a week ... run away very
fast!After study you should consider a new job for one month, and maybe you can have a Unemployment subsidies, and you can integrate your salary for a while
This is a big step for you, and you have time to create a start up and become indipendent
Thanks for the help! I do have some knowledge of Poker. I have studied Poker a lot when I was playing regularly. The thing is I'm a bit rusty and the field is different and after about 20k hands at NL5 my winrate is neutral (actually a like few bucks negative). I know enough to consider this kind of normal but I also know I'm spewing on many hands and I lose too much on my non showdown hands.
An unemployment subside would be perfect but I don't thing I qualify for that. My job contract ends at March, that's when I'm planning to start my real poker adventure.
Originally posted by Blitz76
To play every day and study poker is NOT the ideal situation, before quiting you should study and study and then decide what to do , 4 months are similar a week ... run away very
fast!After study you should consider a new job for one month, and maybe you can have a Unemployment subsidies, and you can integrate your salary for a while
This is a big step for you, and you have time to create a start up and become indipendent
Thanks for the help! I do have some knowledge of Poker. I have studied Poker a lot when I was playing regularly. The thing is I'm a bit rusty and the field is different and after about 20k hands at NL5 my winrate is neutral (actually a like few bucks negative). I know enough to consider this kind of normal but I also know I'm spewing on many hands and I lose too much on my non showdown hands.
An unemployment subside would be perfect but I don't thing I qualify for that. My job contract ends at March, that's when I'm planning to start my real poker adventure.
Originally posted by Primrose6789
So, 13th thing, give the poker pro life a trial run. Find out if you like it or not and if the latter is the case you can look for another job. ♠_smile:
That is my plan. I have a 4 month trial which at the end I'll need to be able to withdraw some money otherwise I'll have 2 spare months to look for a job.
Originally posted by AthleticAZ
Grinding is not easy. It's a hard work. It a f**king pain more that half of the time (you don't often win, etc.). You need to understand that your mental side will be much worse, when playing without additional income.Playing 6 hours per day at a good mindset level needs to be trained. It doesn't happen automatically. You need to know when to play, when not to. You need to know how long can your brain function without a brake. It is also possible that you might not be able to play even 4 hours a day with good mindset and discipline. It takes time and work.
You will get -20BI swings easily and will need to play through that, it also needs to be trained. Breaking even for 50k hands is also normal, so you would need some serious volume. Not playing when on a downswing is not gonna cut it. You will have to play through it.
The thing is, serious volume can be achieved my multi-tabling and that needs to be trained. When you start playing more tables, you get more auto-piloting. Guess, what? Yes, needs to be trained. How? You need to understand the moment, when you autopilot and quit (take a break, refresh). Then train those spots (with less tables) until your auto-piloting (unconscious decisions) makes good decisions.
My tip would be this. Don't gamble on this one. Make a good decision based on facts what you know you can do. Don't just guess that you can do it.
Good luck!
Yup, solid post.