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Adelardo
Joined: 19.03.2008

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 94.5 BB
SB: 59 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
BB: 108.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: 106 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 62 BB (VPIP: 30.95, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7♣ 9♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 6 players) K♣ J♥ T♣
SB checks, BB bets 12.5 BB, fold, MP calls 12.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 12.5 BB, fold

Turn: (55.5 BB, 3 players) 8♦
BB bets 43 BB, MP raises to 82 BB and is all-in

Hero ?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would always start with an stack of at least 100bb, but in most cases I would just fold pre-flop 97s, but multi way it's not to bad to call 97s on the BTN.

The turn is nasty when you have a straight and a flush draw as back up,but I expect you are often against a better straight and I would make a fold here or you have reads on them they could over play flush draws or sets here.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Seems quite difficult. It would be hard to fold a straight with a flush draw but there are higher straights with higher flush draws possible.
We need to win something like 27-33% depending on if BB joins the pot or not. And my guess is that he will join most likely.

Just against MP we could be just fine. Even if he would have higher straights and sets (88,TT,JJ) we would be ok, but if BB joins we don't win often enough vs 2 guys with strong ranges. Even if we add a lot of 2pair hands and draws to BB we still don't win enough.

This is quite much just a guessing game. It depends on villain's ranges and whether BB calls or not. My guess is that BB will most likely call and then you probably wouldn't have enough equity vs 2 guys.


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Adelardo
Joined: 19.03.2008

I folded here. I was afraid of any AQ or better clubs.

I got down in NL2 from NL5 for BRM reason but I have some posttraumatic stress disorder :f_cool:

I really don't know if it was a good or a bad decision.

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7♣ 9♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 6 players) K♣ J♥ T♣
SB checks, BB bets 12.5 BB, fold, MP calls 12.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 12.5 BB, fold

Turn: (55.5 BB, 3 players) 8♦
BB bets 43 BB, MP raises to 82 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 39 BB

River: (219.5 BB, 2 players) 6♣

BB shows T♥ K♥ (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 33%, Flop 16%, Turn 5%)
MP shows K♠ J♣ (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 67%, Flop 84%, Turn 95%)
MP wins 212 BB


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

MP shouldn't call hands like KJo or KTo vs UTG open but in this case it looks like both of their ranges could be a bit wider than what I thought. If you count in the rake, I think with more information we could have been able to make a marginally profitable call, but of course you couldn't know that beforehand.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Impossible to get away from that, especially at NL2. Fold preflop if you don't feel comfortable in these spots. But for me it's more than "marginally profitable" come on !

And lol@ "MP shouldn't call hands like KJo or KTo vs UTG open". Well, sure, if you mean you'd rather expect them to call with 53o I do agree...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Didn't get that last comment about 53o.

But if we assume BB calls always here, we need to win this about 27% of the time. A bit more if we think rake will eat a part of our winnings. Then depending on how many 2pair and draw combos villains can really play this way, we can have a few percentages less or more equity than we need. I wouldn't call that very profitable spot either on the long run.

But for sure by tuning the ranges a bit we can make this look profitable, and in some cases it will be. Depends on what kind of ranges we guess villains have :)


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Adelardo
Joined: 19.03.2008

lol

After this decision I have needed to quit the tables and make half an hour of fitness.

I was really out of service for a while ...

But as I read it on a poker book : past is the past :f_cool:


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