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Adelardo
Adelardo
Joined: 19.03.2008
Posts: 1,689
16.02.2019, 11:37

How to play that hand ?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 33 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (CO): 117.5 BB
BTN: 228.5 BB (VPIP: 31.78, PFR: 26.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 111)
SB: 106 BB (VPIP: 26.85, PFR: 18.79, 3Bet Preflop: 4.08, Hands: 151)
BB: 99 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
UTG: 154 BB (VPIP: 18.08, PFR: 11.30, 3Bet Preflop: 3.39, Hands: 181)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♥

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 8♦ J♦ Q♣
UTG checks, Hero bets 19 BB, UTG calls 19 BB

Turn: (57.5 BB, 2 players) T♦
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (57.5 BB, 2 players) 5♥
UTG bets 28 BB, Hero calls 28 BB

UTG shows A♦ K♥ (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 43%, Flop 17%, Turn 77%)
Hero mucks Q♠ Q♥ (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 57%, Flop 83%, Turn 23%)
UTG wins 109.5 BB


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semiramiRNMD
semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009
Posts: 277
16.02.2019, 13:33

You're almost always beat OTR. This is a nitty player with PFR 11. What do you think is his UTG range? He'll fold anything that misses this flop like 66 for example and will lead or c/r strong hand like JJ. He will not turn a made hand like AQ into a bluff OTR, he cannot have a pure bluff either, so he has you beat about 100% of the time.


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MyFloXyBabY
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Joined: 15.02.2010
Posts: 2,090
16.02.2019, 14:27

Yeah 18-11-3 should never bluff so could be an exploitative fold OTR but who knows, sometime they play weird, even them can attack weakness or value too thin so calling can't be disastrous.


Chinese proverb : Give a HUD to a man, he'll exploit one day, but teach him to use a tracker... and he'll complain about his AIEV all his life :D
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Oly0909
Oly0909
Joined: 08.06.2008
Posts: 952
16.02.2019, 16:02

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
even them can attack weakness or value too thin so calling can't be disastrous.

That’s why I think bet/fold turn and check back river would be much better, but I’m not sure about it.


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Oly0909
Oly0909
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16.02.2019, 17:54 +1

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but what about AQ, AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, KT, QJ, JT, especialy combos with one diamond? There’s plenty of worse hands that can X/C.

Sorry, I still think betting 1/2 pot on turn is better. I would really like to hear more arguments against it ;-)


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MyFloXyBabY
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16.02.2019, 18:06

Truth is, in game I'd probably check back that turn by reflex like a pussy but if I pause and think about it indeed betting seems to have more merits. Especially after having pot the flop, that changes the spot and the ranges somewhat.


Chinese proverb : Give a HUD to a man, he'll exploit one day, but teach him to use a tracker... and he'll complain about his AIEV all his life :D
"Si debis pedere, pedis superbe. (If you must fart, fart proudly)" VorpalF2F

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pokerboy198229
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Joined: 20.08.2011
Posts: 717
16.02.2019, 18:19

checking turn and folding river is standaard in this spot, imo. Unless you know something about the villain.


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