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(FR) - AKs vs 3bet

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

OOP and with a 3bet already there, is this an easy fold?

$0.05 NL - Holdem - 7 players

Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 91.6 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG+1: 73.6 BB (VPIP: 63.64, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 11)
MP: 109.2 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
CO: 106.2 BB (VPIP: 5.26, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
BTN: 79.8 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
SB: 105.2 BB (VPIP: 41.18, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♣ A♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, UTG+1 raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 21.4 BB, UTG+1 raises to 73.6 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 52.2 BB

Flop: (148.6 BB, 2 players) T♠ 2♥ 5♣

Turn: (148.6 BB, 2 players) Q♠

River: (148.6 BB, 2 players) 6♠

Spoiler

UTG shows A♠ A♦ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 78%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
UTG+1 shows J♥ J♣ (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 22%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
UTG wins 141.2 BB


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

I think you should have to call always after this min raise, only good fold if you have got information villain only min 3bet pre flop KK++.


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WaterDragon26
Joined: 30.06.2019

I would either call with the hope that UTG wouldn't 4-bet or fold (Would it be too nitty?) Whether I'd do this or that would greatly depend on the information I have on both villains's tendencies.


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MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015

I would probably 4bet agaisnt that silly 3bet, but maybe im being a bit angro lol
However if the villain shoves im gtfo


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I think you can see both players as unknown with only a hand sample of <11 hands, but folding AKs seems a little bit to tight. I would make a small 4bet to like 15bb and if you face a 5bet or even worse you can still fold.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

Fold. You don't need to play in such marginal spots. Cold call is bad, 4-b/fold is bad 4-b/shove is bad. OOP, you need to hit the flop with not many aces and kings left in the deck, etc etc.


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WaterDragon26
Joined: 30.06.2019

Your position was bad. I understand the fold even though it was a little too nitty for me... But, I'd either 4 bet or fold here.


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srichards
Joined: 26.11.2012

AKs and AKo are overrated by some players. However, preflop I always call any raise or three/four bet up to 15 BB. Above 15 BB, I fold these hands. I must make generic preflop decisions regardless of the Villain because Ignition is an anonymous site. It is impossible to know the playing patterns of your opponents, except for the time that they are at the table. So, I have no opinion of other commenters who speak about the Villains’ tendencies. Actually, it is quite comfortable to play a generic preflop style without HUD information. This is not a criticism of those who wisely use HUD statistics.


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