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pguest
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Joined: 01.04.2009
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03.08.2019, 09:08

Questions below. No stats or reads at that moment.

$0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players

MP: 18 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP+1: 23.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 104.6 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 111 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 91 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
UTG: 111.4 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
UTG+1: 132.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♥

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, CO calls 1 BB, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 17 BB, fold, fold, MP raises to 18 BB and is all-in, fold, BTN raises to 111 BB and is all-in, fold
Questions and thoughts:

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is my 3bet size ok? Or is it too big?
I guess I could/should call MP mini 4bet. My problem is BU 5-bet shove.

Flop: (56 BB, 2 players) 8♥ 3♠ 5♦

Turn: (56 BB, 2 players) 7♥

River: (56 BB, 2 players) 4♣

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MP shows K♦ A♣ (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 45%, Flop 27%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows 7♣ 7♦ (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 55%, Flop 73%, Turn 100%)
BTN wins 53.2 BB


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zetozinho
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03.08.2019, 18:56 +1

Insta shove preflop, the same way you would play in a play money game.
I really don't care if we lose value and bla bla bla.


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pguest
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04.08.2019, 10:05

Originally posted by zetozinho
Insta shove preflop, the same way you would play in a play money game.
I really don't care if we lose value and bla bla bla.

do you mean 3bet shove?


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zetozinho
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04.08.2019, 12:43 +1

Originally posted by pguest

Originally posted by zetozinho
Insta shove preflop, the same way you would play in a play money game.
I really don't care if we lose value and bla bla bla.

do you mean 3bet shove?

Yes.


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SDK1987
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06.08.2019, 16:24 +1

I don't think that's smart with still a 111bb stack in the hand. I would make it 18bb with in mind the MP has only a 18bb stack, but calling the 4bet shove is fine for sure against the BTN isolation.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Alexv21
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08.08.2019, 01:23 +1

nice hand well i hope it goes well


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Thiamtan
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08.08.2019, 11:23 +1

to big i think you need and save littel hafe be good here


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semiramiRNMD
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Joined: 25.10.2009
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08.08.2019, 15:56 +1

Your 3-b sizing is good. Easy shove. QQ can be folded here only if you have very specific reads on the villain.


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WaterDragon26
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11.08.2019, 01:14 +1

I like the size of your three bet... I'd also fold thinking that AK is the weakest in villain's range.


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srichards
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11.08.2019, 04:01 +1

I also like 3 betting QQ, KK, and AA to 15 BB. Your 3 bet size is fine. I am always willing to go All In preflop with QQ. I would definitely call the All In. In fact, if somebody 3 bets my QQ with about 15 BB, I will shove. If somebody 3 bets my QQ with less than 10 BB, I will raise to about 24 BB. Button's shove with 77 is unwise. Normally, you can earn a lot of money from silly over bets. Reckless over betting is common. That is why you cannot fold your robust hands.


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