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zachrina
Joined: 05.12.2012

Hi,

I made deal this weekend with 5 left. On reflection I feel that I left some money at the table. Or basically did a poor deal for myself. After all it was 5.30am and was maybe not thinking too clearly?

Blind levels were now 25k/50k with a 25k big blind ante so stack could change quickly and with only 2.5 million chips in play we had a 10BB avg stack.

Stack sizes were:
1 - 750,000 (me)
2 - 680,000
3 - 420,000
4 - 420,000
5 - 260,000

Payouts were:
1 - £1750
2 - £1150
3 - £750
4 - £560
5 - £380

So we ran the numbers and did an ICM chop which resulted in these payouts:
1 - £1100
2 - £1050
3 - £900 (because the guy wouldn't budge)
4 - £850
5 - £650

I was pretty happy although at 42 years old weirdly I was the youngest guy left and the others looked fucked apart from one other competent guy. The other main point that has made me question the while deal was the issue of the last man standing prize of £285 which 4 of us were still a part of (£3 extra when entering tournament). We chopped that 4 ways with me taking the £75.

Does anyone have any thoughts on deal making and if this was a good deal considering such low stack sizes and stacks changing so quickly with just one blind steal?

Thanks


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have moved your question to our Tournaments board. There fits it better I think.

I'm no expert of making deals, but the antes seems big. Most of the time evryone paid a 10%-25% big blind.

I would most likely a chip chop deal as chip leader. Than you get more than with a ICM deal. If I think I have a decent edge I wouldn't make a deal at all or try to get more money with a discussion.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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zachrina
Joined: 05.12.2012

Thank you

Yeah the ante is a big blind only ante which goes to half when 5 players left hence the 25k (so big blind pays 50k blind and 25k ante).

Pretty sure I did have an edge but even so at them levels I felt it was too risky.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Never heard of that kind of ante, but I play never live tournaments.


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zachrina
Joined: 05.12.2012

Wow, you never saw a Big blind ante? I think it's standard now in most live tournaments. half an ante makes sense when theres only 5 left.


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pLAYERsjsk
Joined: 20.04.2009

if you have an edge play.
if you dont have an edge dont go to casino.
unless you play for fun.
if you play for fun, do whatever you want.

also, with big blind ante and short effective stacks it is good to make icm deal on UTG.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by zachrina
Wow, you never saw a Big blind ante? I think it's standard now in most live tournaments. half an ante makes sense when theres only 5 left.

Only that everyone need to pay a ante per hand. Like SB 5k BB 10k and a ante of 1k.

Originally posted by pLAYERsjsk
if you have an edge play.
if you dont have an edge dont go to casino.
unless you play for fun.
if you play for fun, do whatever you want.

also, with big blind ante and short effective stacks it is good to make icm deal on UTG.

For a chip leader a chip chop deal is I think better


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stevegold87
Joined: 18.06.2009

I usually always accept deals, dont like to flips for 1k in my opinion its not worth it
I think everything is fine except for 3rd place in chips getting 900$, I would keep playing to take out that asshole.


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