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NL16 6Max, QQ on HJ, King high TT flop vs loose player

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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

The villain is 55/9/af2.6 3B:zero FCB50 FoldToSteal29 45 hands

I think his range is wide here so I go for two streets of value/charge.

River is a meh. I've seen him make small bluffs up to this point.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 104.88 BB
BB: 112.31 BB
UTG: 38.5 BB
Hero (MP): 100.94 BB
CO: 248.81 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♦

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 3♥ 5♣ K♥
SB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, CO calls 6 BB, fold

Turn: (22 BB, 2 players) 7♠
Hero bets 14 BB, CO calls 14 BB

River: (50 BB, 2 players) K♠
Hero checks, CO bets 23.88 BB, Hero ??

Thoughts?


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

I do not like the bet on the flop 3-way against 2 opponents. With a K on the flop even if the CO is a fish and the SB is still in the hand as well. As played river is a fold.

I do think if you check call the flop against the fish if he opts to bet, you have an higher ev.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by advancedTN1984
I do not like the bet on the flop 3-way against 2 opponents. With a K on the flop even if the CO is a fish and the SB is still in the hand as well. As played river is a fold.

I do think if you check call the flop against the fish if he opts to bet, you have an higher ev.

CC twice and fold river?


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LuckyManFromLT
Joined: 12.11.2013

I would like to bet flop but with smaller sizing, around 3,5-4bb. OTT you can bet vs such player, it will be +EV, but only if you choose right sizing. It should be small not more than 40% of the pot + if you bet smaller OTF you will keep his range wider, thus it makes more EV to bet pretty dry turn.

I would be more inclined to x flop if you don't have position on any player (in this case you have position on SB) and if you have a QxQh.

I would prefer to x/f river without more info on CO.


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najtreg12
Joined: 25.06.2009

Cbetting twice is a mistake in my opinion.

However as played, I call the river since there are probably enough busted flushdraws that try to get the pot, and the K is almost the best card in the deck to call since it reduces the chance of him having a K.


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

It depends on the read on the particular fish. In 69 hands you could have some reads on the fish. Prone to betting if given the opportunity.

Mostly however there are a few occasions to sort out. If the fish is betting and sb is calling you are beat with sb having at least a K. So you fold
If the fish is betting and sb folds then you can call twice probably.
River is a though spot and really depends on the type of fish, and sizing and the run out of the board. But probably after 2 times check-calling the fish gives up on the river without hitting the river so you can fold river and don't have to feel ill about it.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Can I just say how difficult it is to fold on river on this run out against this opponent. I'm wondering if I can fold here check calling up this point. I think if he keeps the sizes small then I might end up calling all the way to river here.


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