QQ vs squeeze from the SB with deeps stacks

Joined: 01.11.2013

25.10.2020, 11:07 0

I think this a sick spot. SB is reg and his squeeze is pretty big and if I have to cold 4 bet ( not sure if this is the correct term here) it should be around 20 and if he shoves maybe i have to fold? All of the other 3 players in the hands are fishes and I didn`t have idea what they`ll do. I wanted to call and hope to play in position against the reg postflop.
On the flop he checked so I guess I have to value bet. On the river he bets 1/3 which is a like a value for sizing, but I think I can call here. Suggestions?

iPoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

Hero (BB): €91.07 (182.1 bb)
UTG: €30.21 (60.4 bb)
MP: €52.20 (104.4 bb)
CO: €50.00 (100 bb)
BTN: €23.15 (46.3 bb)
SB: €88.88 (177.8 bb)

SB posts €0.25, Hero posts BB €0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has Q♠: Q♣:
fold, MP raises to €1.00, CO calls €1.00, BTN calls €1.00, SB raises to €8.00, Hero calls €7.50, 3 folds

Flop: (€19.00, 2 players) 9♣: 8♣: 8♠:
SB checks, Hero bets €7.50, SB calls €7.50

Turn: (€34.00, 2 players) 2♦:
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (€34.00, 2 players) K♦:
SB bets €11.50, Hero calls €11.50

Results: €57.00 pot (€2.85 rake)
Final Board: 9♣: 8♣: 8♠: 2♦: K♦:

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pisiattu

Joined: 01.04.2010

Posts: 614

25.10.2020, 20:27 0

Your Cold call is a bad move, I 4bet 2x or fold if squeezer is nitty.

As played bet turn and check back river

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Tomaloc

Joined: 17.01.2011

Posts: 6,772

25.10.2020, 22:39 0

agree with betting turn.

river seems like just a fold, i don't see what you beat here.
do you think he check/calls A high or draws on the flop? now AK beats you, you block AQ, so maybe he has AJcc, JTs or some other random hand that he bluffs for this sizing, or sick valuebet with JJ? seems very optimistic.

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kfcsekirata

Joined: 01.11.2013

Posts: 305

26.10.2020, 00:42 0

I agree with what you wrote. In reality villain had 99 and it would be bad situation if I bet the turn but I guess the river call is too bad .

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Kruppe

Joined: 20.02.2008

Posts: 2,133

27.10.2020, 16:42 0

whether to 4bet depends on subjective factors like how you plan the rest of your 4bet and vs5bet ranges...

Originally posted by pisiattu
Your Cold call is a bad move, I 4bet 2x or fold if squeezer is nitty.

folding would be a very big mistake! cold call is totally fine, especially if you know what your range is.

regarding turn: check can be fine with this hand, but depends on your reasons and plan...

as played, your specific hand is one of the worse bluff-catchers on the river...
Whether to call of course depends the ranges you give villain for XC flop and then on how tricky/creative you think villain's sizing strategy is, etc...

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pisiattu

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27.10.2020, 19:56 0

QQ in a multyway pot is a sick hand
When hero cold call had a capped range KK+ cold 4bet
Win 22 bb uncontested is ok

The Call preflop is sick for relative position, redic rsp and because hero often plays in a multyplay pot with a overcard...

I cold 4bet not close

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Kruppe

Joined: 20.02.2008

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28.10.2020, 12:10 0

Originally posted by pisiattu
QQ in a multyway pot is a sick hand

sick good or sick bad? with fish, sick good.

Originally posted by pisiattu
Win 22 bb uncontested is ok

OK in general, but maybe not ok when taking into account the relevant factors in this hand, i.e. focusing on getting value from fish.

Originally posted by pisiattu
When hero cold call had a capped range KK+ cold 4bet

KK+ isn't capped. Do you mean the coldcall range is capped? In any case, a) it depends on how hero chooses to construct the ranges, and b) it doesn't matter as much as maximizing value in this unique situation.

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