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[Closed] QQ NL100 SH against 3-bet OOP

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Marg0z
Joined: 10.04.2008

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($101)
BB ($93.10)
UTG ($190)
UTG+1 ($151)
Hero ($99.50)
BTN ($96)

Dealt to Hero Q♣Q♥

fold, UTG+1 calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN raises to $16, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $40, BTN raises to $96, Hero calls $56,

FLOP ($194) 4♠K♥5♦

TURN ($194) 4♠K♥5♦7♥

RIVER ($194) 4♠K♥5♦7♥5♥

What are you doing in this spots vs normal TAG (18/15; wts: 27; af: 3.7; 3-bet: 5.5%) ??


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myfairmark
Joined: 30.11.2007

u can fold taht preflop, ur flipping at best against his range and hes never cold4bet bluffing you in that spot, besides u only have 5 blinds on the pot.


NymXXL
Joined: 20.05.2008

I have played pretty much hands on NL 100 and NL200 and shoving preflop and calling shove after 4bet is pretty standard especially against TAG who 3beted your CO raise from the button. It is true that you are flipping very often but folding after your 4 is bad imo becouse you are getting really nice odds to call (3:10). You have to think in a way that there are 18 combinations of AK and 6 combinations of KK and AA each so it is not the 2 times sucks spot and one time flip. And todays preflop midstakes play is very aggro and you can occasionally see some midpair shoves, A high shoves and so on in the blind steals spots. If you don´t like shoving it you may think about calling 3bet but you will be oop and thinking player will get you out off the pot when there will be A and K very often and sometimes he will hit set on low board and stack you.
2 myfairmark: I don´t think that he is never 4bet bluffing. Some players 4 bet ratio is even higher that 1 bluff:1 value, especially BTN vs CO.


Marg0z
Joined: 10.04.2008

Thx NymXXL , now I am more sure about shoving QQ :)


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

easy shove pre tag vs tag. QQ is nutz.

Best regards,
TribunCaesar


Marg0z
Joined: 10.04.2008

AK also almost every time all-in preflop?


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Originally posted by Marg0z
AK also almost every time all-in preflop?

close to always, yes. depends on opponent.