KK on button vs SB

Originally posted by CheesyEagl3
I'm gonna go against the majority here and say that it's an easy fold.

Out of curiosity I ran a range research for you. NL5 zoom player pool, raise vs turn cbet OOP -> 59% of the time they show up with two pairs or better. That's the reason why you're burning money in these spots even though people here say that "You can't fold an overpair here". As Gomez said, you simply have to learn to fold in obvious spots or you will be stuck at NL5 forever, and this is one of those spots. NL5 is the nittiest limit out there (we discussed it a few weeks ago) and there are many ridiculously underbluffed spots (triple barrel, river raise, turn raise...) where you simply have to overfold no matter what anyone says. So on this hand when too hard for opponents 3bet premium hands he can has still TT and QQ too on another side.
From some experience I try open door for opponent to bluffs on the river when board busted draws and very seldom somebody bluffs.
You know what, for the next week try to fold any one pair holding against a raise (not that it's the right strategy, just a very simplified one). You will be very surprised how much your winrate is gonna increase. Trust me.

I agree with this, thanks. When I Play simple strategy I have better winrate than I hear some people sat to go higher statistic which I write higher, size bets and another advice from people in discussion forum hands. Some players think that often players can bluffs here but what I sat before too people more often play very passive. From mamy hands which I put last time on this forum how many are bluffs from this? I see moves sometimes from villian that thry just cold call 3bet with aces preflop and raise on flop

Your betsize is problematic. You need to gain information when You Bet. I would Bet fold 90c on turn. Nobrainer betsize does not gain information. It is the hardest strategy You try to play.

Originally posted by regie
The thing is, even nl1k does not fold the hand vs random player. Its harder to win money there still make money

I'm sure you're right, I'm also pretty sure solver would do the same, but at the end of the day, who cares about what's theoretically correct if in practice you're literally burning money in these spots? Trying to play at microstakes the same way NL1k reg would play is not exactly the smartest idea. Would the same NL1k reg still shove if he was sitting at NL5 table knowing he's behind 60% of the time? I guess we both know the answer...

The problem is at micro Stakes our betsize strategy the most important information. It is an important Tell. As played the hand, i dont have information.

Originally posted by regie
The problem is at micro Stakes our betsize strategy the most important information. It is an important Tell. As played the hand, i dont have information.

I have to admit I have no idea what you're talking about here. We both are obviously non-native speakers so it's difficult sometimes to understand each other. Could you formulate you opinion differently, please? What information exactly you don't have?

When we choose a sizing on a board we gain information from the opponent depending on his reaction. I would choose 90c on turn and fold to a reraise . His sizing means nothing in my eyes.

Its a strategy works on small and micro Stakes. We dont have much information but betsize on non hud tabels. When we have hud it is still important to choose the correct betsize .

Originally posted by regie
When we choose a sizing on a board we gain information from the opponent depending on his reaction. I would choose 90c on turn and fold to a reraise . His sizing means nothing in my eyes.

Its a strategy works on small and micro Stakes. We dont have much information but betsize on non hud tabels. When we have hud it is still important to choose the correct betsize .

You in first answers write that I well played and KK is here top range. Now You write that sizing are bad and should fold vs higher cbet on turn.

Originally posted by regie
When we choose a sizing on a board we gain information from the opponent depending on his reaction. I would choose 90c on turn and fold to a reraise . His sizing means nothing in my eyes.

Its a strategy works on small and micro Stakes. We dont have much information but betsize on non hud tabels. When we have hud it is still important to choose the correct betsize .

Ah, now I understand what you mean.

What sounds strange to me is that first you were telling him he played the hand well and he should never fold the turn. Now, out of nowhere, you're saying that you would bet $0.90 and fold (btw he made a $0,70 bet...the difference between those two sizings is definitely not big enough to reconsider your decision of shoving/folding against the raise).

EDIT: Now I have noticed the post above where aleasy77 points out exactly the same thing. You basically gave him two completely different advices.

I would not fold with his sizing. It means weakness.
It is the hardest strategy to make profit against agression when we always show weakness

Originally posted by regie
I would not fold with his sizing. It means weakness.
It is the hardest strategy to make profit against agression when we always show weakness

Bro, come on. Is it so difficult to admit you were wrong? Instead you're spitting nonsense here. You're only making a fool of yourself.

Last time I write. Against weakness it is fine to play with agression. When we fold everything against agression it does not make money.

Originally posted by regie
Last time I write. Against weakness it is fine to play with agression. When we fold everything against agression it does not make money.

60% pot bet on blank turn means weakness...

Ok, we get it, you'd rather keep making a fool of yourself than admit you were wrong.

He can Bet 60% here or anywhere, but the hardest strategy to make profit. We dont know where we stand in the spot. Its a lifetime learn to make profit with this strategy. If we learn out it is profitable and one of the best