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strat9
Joined: 06.02.2008

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$43.00:108/35 /21 /2.7/61 /10 /33 /45 ;Hero$78.50:///////;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♦, T♣
2 folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls.

55% EQ vs Approx
Flop: (8.00 SB) J♣, J♥, 9♣ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

60% EQ vs Approx
Turn: (5.00 BB) 2♦ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

S(WA/WB)?: Call

S: Raise
-62% EQ vs Approx
River: (7.00 BB) 9♦ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.00 BB

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;MP2$60.00:1,940/40 /23 /2.2/36 /35 /39 /55 ;Hero$89.50:///////;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T♥, T♣
MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, MP2 caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 4♥, 3♣, K♦ (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9♠ (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 8♦ (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

I played these hands as WA/WB because I honestly wasn't sure if I was ahead or behind. But are these hands actually a WA/WB situation or are there better ways to play these?


3 replies

1) The board isn't that dry so it doesn't qulify to me as wa/wb. He will also call a lot worse hands down which is one point why raising in a wa/wb is often worse.
So the only question for me is whether we can raise the turn for value or not. I think he will 3-bet any better hand here. He will calldown a lot worse but will he 3-bet enough worse hands? That's really close and as the 2 :diamond: is no scare card he may not rebluff too often nor will he 3-bet with worse hands for value as you won't semibluff here often enough. So the 66% rule should apply here so a calldown is best. (Did I wrote that too complicated? :))

2) That's more wa/wb because the board is dry and he may fold too many worse hands. His range is much stronger as well.

Board: Kd 4h 3c
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 66.212 % 65.212 % 2.000 % 32.788 % 88+, AQs+, AKo
Spieler 2: 33.788 % 32.788 % 2.000 % 65.212 % ThTc

This range is slightly looser than a PS.com range but even with more hands in it I think the best we can do here is to calldown. For a raise we never get enough equity and it's wa/wb. Foor a fold we have too much equity (we need around 30% against a 3-bet so we need even less against a cap).


strat9
Joined: 06.02.2008

Not too complicated, thanks. Does the 66% rule only apply when you are in position?


Originally posted by strat9
Not too complicated, thanks. Does the 66% rule only apply when you are in position?

No. :)