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[Closed] Nl4 Sh - Ak

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randompkr
Joined: 08.01.2009

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$5,00:///////;CO$5,00:53/25/15/1,0/44/26/100/50;[/tg]
0,02/0,04 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♠, K♥
CO raises to $0,16, BU folds, Hero raises to $0,56, BB folds, CO calls $0,40.

Flop: ($1,16) 9♥, J♠, 4♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $0,75, CO raises to $1,50, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $3,41

Should I cbet this flop? AK is nightmare for me, I just dunno how to play this OOP in 3bet pot and if I don't hit.
Also, I didn't have the stats while playing this.


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Ka0s
Joined: 05.11.2008

Interesting hand, difficult situation.

Additional question for handjudge: What could his min-raise on the flop mean? Who the hell minraises this flop?


randompkr
Joined: 08.01.2009

Maybe QQ, JJ, 99 or even AJ? Tho this min-raise looks more like cheap attempt to bluff me out of the hand in case I have the AQ or AK as I had this time.


Ka0s
Joined: 05.11.2008

Originally posted by randompkr
Maybe QQ, JJ, 99 or even AJ? Tho this min-raise looks more like cheap attempt to bluff me out of the hand in case I have the AQ or AK as I had this time.

Yeah I think the same.


randompkr
Joined: 08.01.2009

So you would shove after his min-raise?


Ka0s
Joined: 05.11.2008

no lol .

Is he's bluffing I think you can't do much about it? If he has a nice draw you won't loose him with a small raise. And yeah you'll be comitted pretty soon. You're gonna hate a lot of turns. It's probably not a pure bluff like 83o.

His raise seems donkey, but I am wondering if he can make enough hands fold
to maybe make it +ev ???


Ka0s
Joined: 05.11.2008

He randompkr, I was overlooking your stack sizes a bit in the last post and didn't understand why you were talking about pushing.

I thought of something that might reduce his bluffing amount here:
Your stacks were both $4.44 to the flop, right?
If you bet like $1 on the flop your stack would be $3.44
It would seem more like you have something to protect, plus he must realize he can't raise with a bluff or a draw here because you are very likely to put in the rest of your money.
When you bet the $0.75, he can raise without being comitted.

Just a little difference, but I think he would play way more straightforward.
:f_grin:


randompkr
Joined: 08.01.2009

Originally posted by Ka0s
He randompkr, I was overlooking your stack sizes a bit in the last post and didn't understand why you were talking about pushing.

I thought of something that might reduce his bluffing amount here:
Your stacks were both $4.44 to the flop, right?
If you bet like $1 on the flop your stack would be $3.44
It would seem more like you have something to protect, plus he must realize he can't raise with a bluff or a draw here because you are very likely to put in the rest of your money.
When you bet the $0.75, he can raise without being comitted.

Just a little difference, but I think he would play way more straightforward.
:f_grin:

I was just a little misunderstanding by me. It wouldn't make any sense pushing flop after his min-raise, I know. And yes, I think that my bet size was little bit too small also. Still I'm little bit confused, should I c-bet flops like this after 3-betting PF?


Okay, the way I play AKo if there are a raise b4 is that I just call and see a flop but if ur villain is a random fish its really hard to put him on a hand so a fold is best option without hitting.


Originally posted by Ka0s
Interesting hand, difficult situation.

Additional question for handjudge: What could his min-raise on the flop mean? Who the hell minraises this flop?

to induce shove by worse hands
you don´t have to raise big in 3-bet pots to get money all-in :)
some players would do that with flushdraw, some with nuts, some with top pair
I think b/f there is better than bet/shove
just wait for right hand, if player is aggressive you can also c/f flop