[Closed] 3 Hands 2/4 shorthanded

1) Should be the right way

2) omg. Is it really correct to call with these two little suited cards? I don't think so.

3) I would have bet the Flop.

1) think you're behind to often here to justifiy a raise for value, so youl could call the flop and fold the turn UI or raise the flop to take a freecard. Freecard raise depends on how aggressive SB is and how likely he will 3 bet you here.

2) fine. why bet turn? for what? to make everyone fold? never!;)

3) Raise the turn!

Original von noap_
2) omg. Is it really correct to call with these two little suited cards? I don't think so.

3) I would have bet the Flop.

Any 2 suited cards are good to call in the BB if there are 3 more guys in the game.

And why bet the flop? I have nothing but 2 Overcards and the pot is small.

Original von OnkelHotte
1) think you're behind to often here to justifiy a raise for value, so youl could call the flop and fold the turn UI or raise the flop to take a freecard. Freecard raise depends on how aggressive SB is and how likely he will 3 bet you here.

2) fine. why bet turn? for what? to make everyone fold? never!;)

3) Raise the turn!

1) I didn't raise it for value, but to kick the guy behind me out. I put the SB on overcards and the Button on nothing (he would have called any one bet - I thought I'll let him pay more or kick him out).

2) just to be sure: if the turn were 5-handed, I could bet it for value?

3) Why raise the turn? Because of fold equity? I wouldn't call a bet on the river if I didn't hit anything...

1) jupp u raised 4 value, otherwise you wouldn't have bet the turn and assumed that u are in front on the flop!;). its close here and depends on villains 3 betting range preflop.

2) I would not bet this turn. two reasons:
1) anybody could raise behind you and make your draw more expensive as it should be
2) you don't have the nut flush draw

3= of cuz for foldequity. do you have pot odds to call here?

Original von OnkelHotte
2) I would not bet this turn. two reasons:
1) anybody could raise behind you and make your draw more expensive as it should be
2) you don't have the nut flush draw

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have about 13 outs here and with 4 opponents that should be enough to cap the turn for value. And I _do_ have the nutflush draw, because the 3 gives me a straightflush which means even more implied odds against someone holding the A♥ or K♥ (although it's just one out). What do you think about that?

Originally posted by OnkelHotte
3= of cuz for foldequity. do you have pot odds to call here?

Is the pot big enough for such a move?

Original von Wiseguy

Original von OnkelHotte
2) I would not bet this turn. two reasons:
1) anybody could raise behind you and make your draw more expensive as it should be
2) you don't have the nut flush draw

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have about 13 outs here and with 4 opponents that should be enough to cap the turn for value. And I _do_ have the nutflush draw, because the 3 gives me a straightflush which means even more implied odds against someone holding the A♥ or K♥ (although it's just one out). What do you think about that?

1st of all u have a maximum of 12 outs (9x heart and 3xnon heart trey)

the probability to hit ur str8flush and play vs ace high flush is so small, that you can disregard ist.

but in general u are right. with >=12 out u can cap the turn 4 value vs 4 or more opponents.

@noone: u are right.

hand3) calling is terrible here. keep pot-odds in mind. so raise or fold depends on villain!

Considering the pot is 2,25BB I'd say this is a clear fold unless one has got the perfect read on villain that he folds to a raise on the turn.
But I'll keep that raise in mind for bigger pots.

I'd fold #3. Most of the time villain is not bluffing and actually has a holding that beats you. You play with some outs but not enough to consider a call due to your small pot odds. Additionally, as Hotte already mentioned, you should not call but raise if you dont wanna fold. But in this case, the pot is way too small to make an investment of at least 2 BB.