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[Closed] NL100 Q7s second nut flush - Fish Battle #2

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SoyCD
Joined: 20.02.2008

About the players:

MP3 = Somewhat dumb with calling station tendencies. He is also villan in this hand: NL100 QQ topset 4 flush board & NL100 TT FH - Fish Battle #3

BB = rocky nit

Since I've been quite active but don't mind playing a suited queen vs the fish I just complete. In hindsight this is arguable.

On the flop I hit a draw and bet it out with the intention of picking up the pot. I get re-raised by the fish and put him on either a king that he limped, a set, or a draw himself.

On the turn I pick up the OESD and should probably fold regardless. Yet I don't and hit my second nut flush on the river.

Since he will check a lot of hands behind now I donk it yet get raised. Great spot I got myself into ;D What now? _confused:

$0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]UTG2$115.40:///////;MP1$101.00:///////;MP2$47.05:///////;MP3$99.00:///////;CO$108.30:///////;BU$100.00:///////;SB(Hero)$137.80:///////;BB$98.50:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:h, 7:h.
3 folds, MP3 calls $1.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 6:d, 8:h, K:h (3 players)
Hero bets $2.00, BB folds, MP3 raises to $6.00, Hero calls $4.00.

Turn: ($15) 5:d (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $12.00, Hero calls $12.00.

River: ($39) 9:h (2 players)
Hero bets $23.00, MP3 raises to $62.00, Hero :f_eek: .


4 replies
mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

I think your complete of the SB is good play, loosens up your image and you can expect to get huge payoff when you hit your flush/twopair vs the fish.

Just ship river, you have the second nuts, he could have so many worse flushes. If he is retarded, he might not expect you to have a flush and raise with a 7 (straight).

I think I would fold the turn, I think playing flushdraws passively in check/call mode makes it really obvious when it hits and reduces your implied odds. I would rather maintain the betting lead and so I can control the potsize as well (for example if he didn't raise flop I would just half-pot the turn to make the draw cheap).


Gonira
Joined: 27.02.2008

yeah, ship river. but i don't think that folding the turn is an option as played, since you got also a straight draw, which gives you a good price to chase, regardless of implied odds. but i'd prefer to bet the turn myself to try to make him fold the occasional bluff with pure air, who knows?


mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

oh yeah didn't see the straight draw


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by SoyCD
Hero ships it

Preflop:
The complete is ok given 5:1 odds and that BB is a nit and will rarely raise.

Flop:
Standard bet to take the pot down, standard call due to the odds.

Turn:
I like the check better than a bet because he's somewhat passive as you say so he might check behind his weak made hands - you get a free card.
But if you bet he'd call and you put money in the pot as an underdog.
Given that you also had a straightdraw i think the call is fine.

River:
You hit. There are tons of 2pairs/sets/straights/worse flushes in his range that he could be overplaying, so this is an easy bet/AI spot.