[Closed] Nut-Flush-Draw 2paired board

It's a pretty decent sized pot, personally I'd call this. Maybe it's just a shared leak, but I can't be more than 90% sure MP1 isn't bluffing (which is what you'd have to be able to say if you threw away your 1:11 pot odds here), and right now I'd put CO on an overpair or even an ace high. Call this down.

Hello

i would put the other player on an Overpair or an Ace High Hand like AK, AQ who thinks he might have the best hand here because noone indicated real strenght by raising. I think the call on the river is not right.
U should ask yourself on the turn whether he has the Fullhouse or not. If u think he has a fullhouse a fold would be the correct decision if u think he hasnt u should have raised the river because your hand will beat him.
Your play is something in between...u dont want to loose an additional bet but u could have won one more as well.

If someone disagrees feel free to discuss it

David Sklansky: "Losing a bet is bad, losing the whole pot is catastrophic."

Originally posted by LastEmu
David Sklansky: "Losing a bet is bad, losing the whole pot is catastrophic."

my first post on the english board, i�m very excited

typhoon posted this hand in the german board too and as it seems he could not get a satisfying answer, but like i said there i�m repeating here, in my opinion its a fold on turn.

if hero had a made hand he could call this with showdown value but he has nothing but a draw, with the risk of drawing dead. the game seems very loose to me with 5 players on the flop so in my opinion its very likely that mp1 has at least an 8, more likely a ten. (people love slowplay at low limits) he maybe c/c flop with the plan to c/r turn but with the 8 coming he could have recognized that he would not definitely get action so he donked. or he has an 8 and wants to see if a ten is out there. i dont think that mp1 has the guts to bet ace high or an underpair in this spot, and
i cant put him on AK or AQ, he limped in.

and u say that u cant be more than 90% sure mp1 is not bluffing, ok lets say mp1 is bluffing in 15% of the times, hero will make his hand to the river in nearly 20% of the times so the chance for hero to make his hand WITH Mp1 bluffing is about 3% or 1: 32, so fold turn.

think about it

Kind regards
Emrah

But if he IS bluffing, then the result is not a loss the 80% of the time, it is a split pot. Too tired to do calculations right now, maybe you could do that for me

but u forget CO who might sit on an overpair...
if u dont hit ur flush every pocket higher than 8 catches the pot, if u hit ur flush u only get it if there is no 8 or T out there.

the pot is really big at turn but i dont think that the chance to win it is big enough to put 2 more BB�s in.

but actually im very curious about the result, maybe typhoon will tell us what mp1 had.

There's a chance he has an overpair//9's, but there's also the chance you hit your A or K on the river. Too many factors for me to work out, at the moment. When I get over this damned mono I'll do the math

im looking forward to hear ur result i explained my line for this hand but i�m not 100% sure if its the right one...
only 99%