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[Closed] K8s vs raise flop

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Confeti
Joined: 02.04.2008

This player always raise me on the flop, with made hands, bluffs and draws...

How to adapt vs him?

I did the calldown here because he was exploiting me ( I don't know if it is well written) and to know what kind of hand he raise on this spot.

Fold turn?

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$87,50:///////;BU$231,50:2.624/20 /17 /2,3/38 /28 /63 /54 ;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♦, 8♦
3 folds, BU raises, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, BU calls.

Flop: (7,00 SB) 5♥, 9♦, 2♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (5,50 BB) J♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets, Hero calls.

River: (7,50 BB) A♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9,50 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows carta alta as con kicker rey (Kd 8d)
BU shows una pareja de jotas (Qd Jh)

BU wins with una pareja de jotas (Qd Jh)


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OlivierLu
Joined: 17.11.2007

Let him bluff you time to time. When you'll have a made hand, just b/c flop, c/r turn. Do this 1 or 2 times with made hands, then do it as a bluff.

Here, K-high is a really weak hand. I would fold it on the turn. I didn't stove it but the J kills your equity.


Hi Confeti,

I like the calldown with your read. Without that I agree with OlivierLu as you won't be often enough ahead.
If he raises a draw very often on the flop he has not improved on the turn nor on the river but these cards may induce him to try another bluff at you.


DukeFreedom
Joined: 07.04.2008

I would fold this turn, the J is just too bad for your equity IMO.

Your equity blows even if he raises 100% of his open raise range on the flop.

Board: Jc 9d 5h 2h

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 19,719 % 18,240 % 2,959 % 78,801 % Kd8d
Player 2: 80,281 % 78,801 % 2,959 % 18,240 % 33+,A2+,K2s+,Q6s+,J7s+,T8s+,98s+,87s,76s,K7o+,Q9o+,J9o+

Edit: I didn't remove hands he might cap preflop, but it doesn't matter much really.


Alright you made me calculate it as well. And I got a new answer.

Fold preflop.

Board:
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 57.444 % 55.831 % 3.228 % 40.942 % 33+, A2s+, K4s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, A5o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo
Spieler 2: 42.556 % 40.942 % 3.228 % 55.831 % Kd8d

With ~42,5% equity you can't 3-bet him here anymore. I took a tighter range than the BU open as he has just 17% pfr and 28% attempt to steal. This range equals ~29,5% so i think it's fine.

Postflop I change my mind and agree with OlivierLu and DukeFreedom as I didn't except your equity being so low.

Board: Jc 9d 5h 2h
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 83.481 % 83.031 % 0.899 % 16.070 % 33+, A2s+, K4s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, A5o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo
Spieler 2: 16.519 % 16.070 % 0.899 % 83.031 % Kd8d

Even if I remove some unlikely hands:

Board: Jc 9d 5h 2h
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 87.227 % 86.928 % 0.598 % 12.474 % 99-33, ATs-A9s, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, A5s-A2s, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, K9s, Kh8h, Kh7h, Kh6h, K5s, Kh4h, Kh3h, Kh2h, QhJh, QhTh, Q9s, Qh8h, Qh7h, JhTh, J9s, Jh8h, T9s, 98s, 8h7h, AJo-A9o, A5o, K9o
Spieler 2: 12.773 % 12.474 % 0.598 % 86.928 % Kd8d

You are still way in to worse shape to continue. :/