[Closed] C-beting at SH micro stakes

Put Fold to c-bet on your hud?

Yes, "fold to c-bet" is your friend (and even fold to turn c-bet for regs).

20-30% is too low imo even for NL10. cbetting is very very VERY profitable, don't pass up on it! cbet more in position, heads-up, and with good dry A/K-high flops. Even against loose fish, because their fish instinct automatically puts you on AK when you raise preflop.

Obviously cbet your draws (even overcards + gutshot) and barrel good turn scare cards (most overcards to the flop) or those that improve your draw - you still have great equity when called and you still have the initiative.

OOP you can check/fold more... there's no need to cbet drawy flops that hit their calling range then check/fold the turn.

Yep , add fold to c-bet on your HUD and cbet more (I cbet almost 90% of times and the reasons not to cbet must be strong).
Second barrel is very good against most opponents (bad players may think that, ok he bets on flop - only 60 cents - I call in case he is bluffing. On turn you bet already 1,7 $ - they think: its so much, he cant be bluffing anymore) Also it works well against better players.
About good boards: every K, A + 2 low cards. Here is second barreling also good because they tend to call on flop with second pairs also , but not so much on turn.
paired boards are also good. Bad boards are 3 broadway cards, connected board (789).
But overall, HU you can bet almost every board.

I think the trouble he may find is that, I'm aware that only Poker Tracker works on Poker Heaven? (if i'm wrong please tell me then I can use something myself), so without PT he won't have any stats / HUD available which will make this kind of stuff relevant

Does pokertracker have stats on Cbet percentage and money won from Chet?

PT3 has Cbet % (on flop, turn, river).
Btw, having the fold to cbet % is not essential, there are just some general principles to follow (there is also an article about cbetting)

Originally posted by kosmonaut111
Yep , add fold to c-bet on your HUD and cbet more (I cbet almost 90% of times and the reasons not to cbet must be strong).
Second barrel is very good against most opponents (bad players may think that, ok he bets on flop - only 60 cents - I call in case he is bluffing. On turn you bet already 1,7 $ - they think: its so much, he cant be bluffing anymore) Also it works well against better players.
About good boards: every K, A + 2 low cards. Here is second barreling also good because they tend to call on flop with second pairs also , but not so much on turn.
paired boards are also good. Bad boards are 3 broadway cards, connected board (789).
But overall, HU you can bet almost every board.

First, Thank you all for responses. At the moment I'm not using any stats/HUD, maybe I will at the next limits, but not now.

Now, kosmonaut111 how does such approach to cbet work for you in practice (I think I know the theory, and I know I should cbet more), because from what I remember, 90% cbet/second barrels works only for a very short time in session, after this, players (even fish) start to notice that you'r just to aggressive to actually hit that much and they will start calling pretty much everything you do (this is nice, if you hit then, but really expensive, when you don't, and I'd hate to play lottery against them). It's even worse against regulars. And this is a major pain in the ass in a small site like Poker Heaven, where table selection is VERY limited. Before, my sessions usually were like that: going up at first and then continuously losing money, unless I hit a monster against an idiot.

havent looked at my statistics so precisely for telling you how good it works. When you see that opponents start calling you more often and raising on flop/turn, you should just lower cbet %.
Usually havent encountered much resistance with Cbetting high though.

But if you look from opponents point: they really cant do anything profitable against your Cbetting - you still hit enough often to continue and also you can do something like call flop reraise and bet turn (as a bluff). But remember - when an opponent starts raising you cbets, it doesnt mean he is bluffing, maybe he just hits something, so better is to fold and also lower cbet% against this player. next time he raises you on flop - you have a good hand...

And now you are cbetting only 30% - that means you are betting when you hit - this is really exploitable. They just can throw their hand away. By cbetting more you dont give any information away on flop.

And you asked about cbetting on micro stakes - here they usually dont adapt to your cbetting.

Hope this helps.

Originally posted by kosmonaut111
havent looked at my statistics so precisely for telling you how good it works. When you see that opponents start calling you more often and raising on flop/turn, you should just lower cbet %.
Usually havent encountered much resistance with Cbetting high though.

But if you look from opponents point: they really cant do anything profitable against your Cbetting - you still hit enough often to continue and also you can do something like call flop reraise and bet turn (as a bluff). But remember - when an opponent starts raising you cbets, it doesnt mean he is bluffing, maybe he just hits something, so better is to fold and also lower cbet% against this player. next time he raises you on flop - you have a good hand...

And now you are cbetting only 30% - that means you are betting when you hit - this is really exploitable. They just can throw their hand away. By cbetting more you dont give any information away on flop.

And you asked about cbetting on micro stakes - here they usually dont adapt to your cbetting.

Hope this helps.

Yes, it does help a lot. And it actually makes sense I'll try to gradually increase cbetting % and see what will happen.

Oh, and for some reason opponents rarely try to exploit my low cbetting. I guess they just think they will hit something that will defeat me (more money for me, hehe) and those times when they do, it's kinda fun/profitable to increase bluffing for a short time

Originally posted by RavForenzo
I think the trouble he may find is that, I'm aware that only Poker Tracker works on Poker Heaven? (if i'm wrong please tell me then I can use something myself), so without PT he won't have any stats / HUD available which will make this kind of stuff relevant

Since playing short-handed without stats is just giving away your money he might as well invest the money into PokerTracker 3. It's only 30 euros for PokerStrategy members.

Originally posted by Xtrike
Does pokertracker have stats on Cbet percentage and money won from Chet?

You can't get money won from C-bet as a statistic, but you could get it as a report.